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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 3789637" data-attributes="member: 10177">As to why I fear I am not going to be happy with 4E.Finger number one: Despite the apparent emphsis on "party roles" when I try to figure out how they are going to do this, based on the admittedly shaky/sketchy info, it sounds to me like they are moving away, but by no means abandoning, the importance of "the party"."Why?", I guess your asking. Well, to me, a party needs each other. You need the mage to counter the mages or clerics of your opponents. You need the Cleric to counter the clerics or mages of your opponents and to help your party quickly recover for the next battle. You need the  fighter types to keep people off of the spellcasters while they cast their spells to bring down the enemy, and if the opportunity arises, interfere with enemy spellcasters trying to do the same to your group. Thieves are needed to safely travel through highhly secured and well guarded locations. So in 4E I am concerned their attempts to "equalize the classes" will go so far that the importance of the group will almost dissappear. Hopefully these WOTC game designers are brilliant enough to achieve "class equality" without sacrificing "the party" too much.Finger number two: Prep time. I still don't believe the DM work load is going to be substantially reduced enough to make me happy to DM 4E. If I still need to buy PC generators and other "DM tools" to significantly reduce Prep time, I'll still be staying away from 4E as a DM.Finger number 3, and my biggest over all problem. 4E is sounding less and less like what D&D fantasy is to me. The way it is sounding to me I already have 4E. Its called "Exalted" or "Big Eyes Small Mouth". So if 4E is indeed moving towards the flavor and feel of these types of fantasy then it is definitely moving beyond me. I play D&D for a specific flavor with specific "tropes"; I think is how it is referred to.Yes, I am sure I could ignore, or house rule, what ruins 4E for me, but why bother? Why buy another system that I would have to ignore a significant portion of to get the kind of game I want? Especially since I already own them?So I have now "put my finger on" my key concerns about 4E. I hope my fears/concerns are unfounded on all fronts.</blockquote>

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