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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5729743" data-attributes="member: 996">Controllers are, necessarily, a little less valuable against solos, just like strikers are a little less valuable against minions.  It's unavoidable, since the Controller works largely by action denial, and Solos' actions are exceedingly high-value.  A solo who takes no actions is just a pinata.  The flip side of the Controller's protfolio, AEs and area denial, also not a big deal in a solo battle.It's just the nature of the solo battle.  In prior eds, a single enemy could often be aced in the first round by a high-DC save.  The opposite problem - and what you'd end up with trying to give controllers their usual sort of control vs a solo.When I played a 4e wizard in a campaign, I noticed - and was not surprised to find - that solos weren't the most enjoyable opponents.  Most encounters, if nothing else, I got to make multiple attack rolls every round.  Solos, blah, condition-inflicting, very marginal, AE/multi-attack, meaningless.  What I finally did was take Mordenkainen's Sword.  A really not very good spell, most of the time.  I'd cast it vs Solos, giving me a minor action attack, and thus two attack roll/round.  Not awe-inspiring, but less boring than making one attack roll per round...  Flaming Sphere can have a similar use, as well as occupying a square, which can occassionally get in the way of a Large solo's shift.  Prone is also great, it's an action, not a save, to end, and can screw with immediate or extra actions that involve movement.It also helps if you delay (or your allies do) to get in a helpful spot, initiative-wise.  If you do drop a condition on a Solo that might help your allies (granting CA, losing resistance, unable to OA, whatever), doing it right after the monster lets your whole party take advantage of it - /you/ don't get to take advantage if he saves, but at least everyone else does.</blockquote>

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