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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8911235" data-attributes="member: 67338">if no one was taking me seriously I would not have 5 conversations at once.do you lose credibility for believing that learning new facts and changing your own mind based on the new data is bad?no just me? Okay, I will take the "credibility" hit to continue talking through this... that is a cost I am willing to pay.so because I turned on wizards, and worked with YOU, then got to the point were I was happy with the compromise, then learned new fact took in new arguments and now have NEW reservations based on those that I am trying (with my gaming group) to compile... that is why I can't be trusted?You lost me somewhere in there.  You do realize I am still complaining to WotC... just not about EVERYTHING you are? right? You do realize the entire point of this was to find a GOOD way to keep teh Morality clause and all you have done (in a + thread) is talk about how it can never be?in my gaming group I am the most knowledgeable of this... we talked for hours tonightOn tic tok I have been talking about this the whole time (but I do spend less time on there then here)I even reopened my Twitter that I have not used in forever when this started to tweet about it... I have found that not everyone is on the same page even there. On facebook not only I, but 2 people I super respect, like teh concept of teh morality clause but want it fine tuned. becuase half a dozen people are as crazy as I am to be up at 4am?okay, no one stood with me for the book of erotic fantays, or Eat the Rich (at least on here) I am use to a vocal number of posters overwhelming everyone and trying to brow beat them into the exact same group think.  I 'm sorry you don't like it, but I still disagree. then why is there a + thread at all to try to make it work?refusing to change, bargan or compromise is not a virtue either. Not wanting to ever have facts or thoughts that oppose you be spoken is not a virtue... and YOUR argument is undercut by not respecting that people actually grow and learn and change.that doesn't get you much thoughWhat I said was WHAT YOU CALL CRUMBS... not I am only here for crumes... I am here for Morality clause, no royalties (or if there must be MUCH better ones) and releasing enough to allow PF LU and BF to continue on.stopping progress because something bad MIGHT happen in the future is a bad argument. Assuming that the Higher Ups are more motivated by 'winning the argument through tricks' then making money is foolish at best. I put that whole 2 honest and good people part in here becuase you have been trying to stear this from talking about the morality clause to putting ME personally in the questions there is no counter argument... you just keep telling me I am wrong. the fact that you have made it clear nothing will change your mind is a problem.  It doesn't matter if I made the Ultimate Argument of Logic, had all the figures and all the facts showing you that you were wrong... You don't WANT to be shown another way.I guess we will see when the survey results come out</blockquote>

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