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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8911469" data-attributes="member: 6778210"><p>Because you are the one putting out opinions people don't agree with. Almost like a lot of people don't agree with you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep removing the word "inherent", so at this point I'm just going to assume the whole "I can change my mind!" thing isn't an honestly held belief, but now is just a cover for your opinions. Otherwise you wouldn't be actively and continually changing my words.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dude, you spent the last week defending the morality clause and basically gave up on OGL 1.0a instantly. Try all you like, but you're stuck with your actions. If you don't like that they are being put back in your face, then maybe you should reconsider them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]273427[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I hate telling you this, but defending this stuff is basically the most telling of the bunch. The little stuff you were against really does nothing and even in your own post you already started waffling on the stuff </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But you are. You are simply talking about that you changed, and not what you changed from and how you did. You are literally doing what you are trying to say you aren't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a + thread for the idea they put forward, not your wholehearted acceptance of it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You got proof of that, or am I to take the word of someone who modifies my own to suit his argument?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's no guardrail or limitation coming, and people like you are just enabling this sort of terrible behavior.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The idea of the + was to try and <em>make</em> it acceptable, not just tout it wholeheartedly. You aren't trying to modify it, you've proposed no limitations, and have continually defended the thing as-is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, that very much <em>is </em>addressing the argument. Certain arguments rely on the arguer, and when you say "We can do ______!", your previous actions are very important to buoy that idea. When you say "We can fight again!", you can't be the guy who didn't go a full week before giving in to what Wizards wanted. </p><p></p><p>The argument defeats itself because you are an example against it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is actually not a personal attack. Saying "people don't believe you" is not a personal attack, it is an observation of what other people seem to think of what you are saying.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Have of your posts have been talking about your ability to change your mind. That's not defending your point, that's just a smokescreen to try and make you seem more reasonable. Your points have not changed, they've been addressed, you're just trying to play this weird respectability game at this point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet you miss the importance of the word <strong>"</strong><em><strong>inherent" </strong></em>everytime I point it out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are plenty! I literally switched systems and talked about it on this board. I change my mind all the time.</p><p></p><p>But I'm not changing my mind on these because it's pretty clear that the right thing is to not trust a company completely acting in bad faith, and that the best thing to do is to try and limit their power because of said actions. Your arguments are incredibly weak in that regard, and it's why so many people disagree with you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The whole "I can change my mind" thing is entirely meaningless here because it's you defending some personal honor thing that no one cares about except you, and you're trying to substitute it as an argument because your current one is just not working.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like the idea of saying I "expect" something means that I think I can't be wrong. That's an incredibly new definition for that word. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":LOL:" title="Laugh :LOL:" data-smilie="17"data-shortname=":LOL:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 8911469, member: 6778210"] Because you are the one putting out opinions people don't agree with. Almost like a lot of people don't agree with you. You keep removing the word "inherent", so at this point I'm just going to assume the whole "I can change my mind!" thing isn't an honestly held belief, but now is just a cover for your opinions. Otherwise you wouldn't be actively and continually changing my words. Dude, you spent the last week defending the morality clause and basically gave up on OGL 1.0a instantly. Try all you like, but you're stuck with your actions. If you don't like that they are being put back in your face, then maybe you should reconsider them. [ATTACH type="full"]273427[/ATTACH] I hate telling you this, but defending this stuff is basically the most telling of the bunch. The little stuff you were against really does nothing and even in your own post you already started waffling on the stuff But you are. You are simply talking about that you changed, and not what you changed from and how you did. You are literally doing what you are trying to say you aren't. It's a + thread for the idea they put forward, not your wholehearted acceptance of it. You got proof of that, or am I to take the word of someone who modifies my own to suit his argument? There's no guardrail or limitation coming, and people like you are just enabling this sort of terrible behavior. The idea of the + was to try and [I]make[/I] it acceptable, not just tout it wholeheartedly. You aren't trying to modify it, you've proposed no limitations, and have continually defended the thing as-is. Actually, that very much [I]is [/I]addressing the argument. Certain arguments rely on the arguer, and when you say "We can do ______!", your previous actions are very important to buoy that idea. When you say "We can fight again!", you can't be the guy who didn't go a full week before giving in to what Wizards wanted. The argument defeats itself because you are an example against it. That is actually not a personal attack. Saying "people don't believe you" is not a personal attack, it is an observation of what other people seem to think of what you are saying. Have of your posts have been talking about your ability to change your mind. That's not defending your point, that's just a smokescreen to try and make you seem more reasonable. Your points have not changed, they've been addressed, you're just trying to play this weird respectability game at this point. And yet you miss the importance of the word [B]"[/B][I][B]inherent" [/B][/I]everytime I point it out. There are plenty! I literally switched systems and talked about it on this board. I change my mind all the time. But I'm not changing my mind on these because it's pretty clear that the right thing is to not trust a company completely acting in bad faith, and that the best thing to do is to try and limit their power because of said actions. Your arguments are incredibly weak in that regard, and it's why so many people disagree with you. The whole "I can change my mind" thing is entirely meaningless here because it's you defending some personal honor thing that no one cares about except you, and you're trying to substitute it as an argument because your current one is just not working. I like the idea of saying I "expect" something means that I think I can't be wrong. That's an incredibly new definition for that word. :LOL: [/QUOTE]
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