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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 4936351" data-attributes="member: 14506">Eldritch_Lord &amp; Stringburka:These are very good possibilities. I suppose there is no wrong way to do it. Essentially the idea is to slow down the caster progression to limit full casters. Whichever way it should bring in line the other classes more to the full casters, especially at the top end. Conceptually, I still like the simpler and slower progression of every 3rd CL gain a new spell level. But I can see the merits of having it other ways. The following is probably my best effort at the representation of the idea. It increases the number of spells you get so as to compensate for the loss of the upper level spells. As you move forward through the epic levels and your caster level increases you get more spells until you max out at 5 across the board (0-9th) for the Cleric, Druid and Wizard and 7 for the Sorcerer. Additionally the specialist wizard and domain bonus both add +1 to each spell level as usual.Cleric, Druid and Wizard Progression[code]CL&nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 91&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -2&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -3&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -8&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -9&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -10&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -11&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -12&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -13&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -14&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -15&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -16&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -17&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -18&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -19&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -20&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -21&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; -22&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; -23&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -24&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 125&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 226&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 327&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 428&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 429&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 430&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5[/code]Sorcerer Progression[code]CL&nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 91&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -2&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -3&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -4&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -5&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -6&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -8&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -9&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -10&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -11&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -12&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -13&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -14&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -15&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -16&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -17&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -18&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -19&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -20&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -21&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; -22&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; -23&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; -24&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; -25&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 326&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 427&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 528&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 629&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 730&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7[/code]Nopal &amp; slwoyach:What I am talking about is reigning in Full Casters rather than improving other classes to match the wizards power. Spread out the spell levels and you have a very easy way to adjust without whole sale alterations of game rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 4936351, member: 14506"] Eldritch_Lord & Stringburka: These are very good possibilities. I suppose there is no wrong way to do it. Essentially the idea is to slow down the caster progression to limit full casters. Whichever way it should bring in line the other classes more to the full casters, especially at the top end. Conceptually, I still like the simpler and slower progression of every 3rd CL gain a new spell level. But I can see the merits of having it other ways. The following is probably my best effort at the representation of the idea. It increases the number of spells you get so as to compensate for the loss of the upper level spells. As you move forward through the epic levels and your caster level increases you get more spells until you max out at 5 across the board (0-9th) for the Cleric, Druid and Wizard and 7 for the Sorcerer. Additionally the specialist wizard and domain bonus both add +1 to each spell level as usual. [B]Cleric, Druid and Wizard Progression[/B] [code]CL 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 4 2 - - - - - - - - 2 4 3 - - - - - - - - 3 5 4 1 - - - - - - - 4 5 4 2 - - - - - - - 5 5 4 3 - - - - - - - 6 5 5 4 1 - - - - - - 7 5 5 4 2 - - - - - - 8 5 5 4 3 - - - - - - 9 5 5 5 4 1 - - - - - 10 5 5 5 4 2 - - - - - 11 5 5 5 4 3 - - - - - 12 5 5 5 5 4 1 - - - - 13 5 5 5 5 4 2 - - - - 14 5 5 5 5 4 3 - - - - 15 5 5 5 5 5 4 1 - - - 16 5 5 5 5 5 4 2 - - - 17 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 - - - 18 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 1 - - 19 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 2 - - 20 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 - - 21 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 1 - 22 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 2 - 23 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 - 24 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 1 25 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 2 26 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 27 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 28 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 29 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 30 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 [/code] [B]Sorcerer Progression[/B] [code]CL 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 7 3 - - - - - - - - 2 7 4 - - - - - - - - 3 7 5 - - - - - - - - 4 7 6 3 - - - - - - - 5 7 7 4 - - - - - - - 6 7 7 5 - - - - - - - 7 7 7 6 3 - - - - - - 8 7 7 7 4 - - - - - - 9 7 7 7 5 - - - - - - 10 7 7 7 6 3 - - - - - 11 7 7 7 7 4 - - - - - 12 7 7 7 7 5 - - - - - 13 7 7 7 7 6 3 - - - - 14 7 7 7 7 7 4 - - - - 15 7 7 7 7 7 5 - - - - 16 7 7 7 7 7 6 3 - - - 17 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 - - - 18 7 7 7 7 7 7 5 - - - 19 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 3 - - 20 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 - - 21 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 5 - - 22 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 3 - 23 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 - 24 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 5 - 25 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 3 26 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 27 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 5 28 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 29 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 30 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 [/code] Nopal & slwoyach: What I am talking about is reigning in Full Casters rather than improving other classes to match the wizards power. Spread out the spell levels and you have a very easy way to adjust without whole sale alterations of game rules. [/QUOTE]

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