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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4499724" data-attributes="member: 63763">Adding to Gruns:&nbsp;Rogue's love defenders, and vice versa, especially the artful dodgers.&nbsp;Simply put - Defender marks the target, Rogue uses the Defender to flank, but while getting in [or out] of position, willingly opens himself up to an Opp Attack. If the baddie takes it, they not only have to deal with the bonus from artful dodger, they also have a -2 penalty from the marking, and they recieve some sort of immediate retribution from the defender. So the rogue is able to give the paladin/fighter a possible outlet for their powers, while the defender provides some protection AND a flanking partner.&nbsp;Basically, working together, it can help to make both characters shine, especially using one class feature [artful dodger] to allow the other player to use his class feature [diving challenge/combat challenge]. And if the monster doesn't take the OA, there is still the chance they'll attack the Rogue later on and suffer the challenge anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4499724, member: 63763"] Adding to Gruns: Rogue's love defenders, and vice versa, especially the artful dodgers. Simply put - Defender marks the target, Rogue uses the Defender to flank, but while getting in [or out] of position, willingly opens himself up to an Opp Attack. If the baddie takes it, they not only have to deal with the bonus from artful dodger, they also have a -2 penalty from the marking, and they recieve some sort of immediate retribution from the defender. So the rogue is able to give the paladin/fighter a possible outlet for their powers, while the defender provides some protection AND a flanking partner. Basically, working together, it can help to make both characters shine, especially using one class feature [artful dodger] to allow the other player to use his class feature [diving challenge/combat challenge]. And if the monster doesn't take the OA, there is still the chance they'll attack the Rogue later on and suffer the challenge anyway. [/QUOTE]

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