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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guilt Puppy" data-source="post: 566709" data-attributes="member: 6521">First, that D&D demo is one of the scariest things I've seen in a long, long time.Second, a D&D Lite outline possibility:Core Rules (defining): [est. 4 pages]- Task Resolution: Describe checks and DCs, as well as opposed checks- Characters: Ability scores (reduce these to bonuses and penalties, base range of -3 to +4) race, and class-- In gameplay: Describe hit points, armor class (perhaps call it Armor DC?), mention class abilities.-- Experience: Leveling up, et cetera. Goes to level 10. Bonus abilities at 3, 6, and 9.- Combat: Describe initiative. Reduce to one action, either move, attack, et cetera.-- Attacks (attack check versus armor DC)-- Spells (spell check versus save DC)- Saving throws: Class-dependent. Only one base save DC (increases per level), to which requisite abilities are added.- Skills: Skill checks use the most closely related ability modifier. Certain skills have an extra bonus dependent on class (equal to +1/level of that class.)- Feats: One at first level, fourth level, seventh level, and tenth level.Races: [Est. One page]- Humans (No ability changes; Bonus feat at start.)- Dwarves (+1 Con, -1 Cha. +2 save DC.)- Elves (+1 Dex, -1 Con. +1 to spell checks.)- Halflings (+1 Dex, -1 Str. +1 to armor DC and attack check for size)Classes: [Est. Four pages]- Fighter-- 6 + Con hit points per level.-- No skills-- +1 attack bonus per level-- Middle save progression-- Special: Bonus fighter feat at even levels- Cleric-- 5 + Con hit points per level-- Skills: Knowledge (Religion)-- +3/4 attack bonus-- Slow save progression-- Special: Spells (mainly healing, turn undead, etc)- Rogue-- 4 + Con hit points per level-- Skills: Bluff, Disable Device, Open Lock, Search-- +3/4 attack bonus-- Fast save progression-- Special: Sneak attack (+1/level, simplified rules)- Wizard-- 3 + Con hit points per level-- Skills: Spellcraft-- +1/2 attack bonus-- Middle save progression-- Special: Spells (simplified to mainly attack spells)That can be covered in less than 10 pages. Then all you need is tables for the classes (progressions, et cetera), and a brief spell list, and you're set. Could easily be done in under 20 pages (although it would need a decent DM to run it without extra supplements... it adapts pretty readily to standard D&D, with the only big change being the reversal of check & DC with regard to spellcasting.)(Edit: The outline has been errata'd so that Elves don't get a penalty to Cha <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</blockquote>

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