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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 6919495" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Fair enough. As someone who has used both products, I can say that HeroLab blows the DDI character builder out of the water. I mean it is not even a comparison. The only possible advantage I could see with DDI is that in 4E you had all those power cards that would require printing. HeroLab allows you to print in a variety of formats, but I never saw it in the 4E days, so maybe DDI was better for that specific reason? And the community pack requires no fiddling....you simply download it when it is updated, very similar to a program update. Once it's up to date, it's all set and you don't need to do anything further. Every now and then you'll find something that isn't quite 100% right, but the longer it goes, the more any errors are ironed out and updated. You don't have to do any work yourself with HeroLab, but you can do it yourself if you like. You can take a monster and add class levels or other features in order to come up with a tougher version. Or if you do want to create something from scratch, you can do so. For example, I created a Worm That Walks template and then applied it to the Archmage entry from the Monster Manual. All of this for less than I paid for about a half year of my DDI subscription....so yeah, you give me a better product for a lesser cost, and I'm happy every time.</blockquote>