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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PMárk" data-source="post: 6925571" data-attributes="member: 6804619">I suspect they will either focus on Starfinder, or do a PF 2e at some point, which has it's own problems. But I hope they'll manage to keep the company afloat too! It'd be sad to lose them.Yes, and? A couple hardcovers and pdfs is still more support than nothing. I'd be happy if we'd get as much support for other D&D settings, even for FR.You'd find that on their monday meeting blog posts and their drivethru sites and also can look up their very successful kickstarters. They have a lot of very good books with excellent quality and in full color and they produce a fair amount of books every year (although they don't have a strict release dates list for future products, because they mostly do it as Blizzard "it's done, when it's done", and sometimes life intervened in the developers' side, like health issues, but they definitely do a fair amount of books every year). Yes, Vampire is not in it's heyday now, for a various reasons, and not least among them is the CCP purchase of WW, another example why giving rpgs into non-rpg focused companies hands is bad for the game. It also worth mentioning that despite their fair success in the USA and having a lot of fans there, the NWoD never got as much tract in other parts of the world, but it's a big topic. I'm not very well versed in ICv2, but as far as i know, they're focusing on retailers. If yes, OP certainly won't appear on their charts. Still, plenty of people are still playing all the WW/OP games. Vampire and the other CWoD games (un)lived through the axing of the entire CWoD line, through the NWoD era and CCP's mismanagement of the IP. In the past 5-6 years, starting with the Vamp 20th anniversary edition the old games got brought back and since then both CWoD and NWoD (now CofD) is good and well, but you won't see it if you're focusing on mostly the D&D scene and on gaming shops(nothing's bad with that, mind you). We'll see what the new Paradox-acquired WW will do with the IP, they want to be in stores with traditionally printed books, so I hope WoD will be in the place it deserves. They recently did a humble-bundle for the old Vampire books and it was a huge success. Also, various WoD games are pretty much dominating the LARP scene and By Night Studios, who does the LARP versions of the games is also being well, their books are also high-quality. CoC 7e, Mage the Ascension 20th, Werewolf 20th, Changeling 20th, Exalted 3e, CofD Dark Eras etc. were also very successful kisckstarters. Look up the deluxe editions of any of the WoD 20th books if you want to see really high-end product books. For example: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZXCLfxN1e0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZXCLfxN1e0</a>. METAL and leather covers, glossy and gilded pages, full-color with great art. Everything you want from a high-end productOP's books are also pretty much the staple of drivethru's best-selling list, in some cases even years after their release. Their PoD versions are also considered very good, especially the premium heavyweight versions. They didn't have any kickstarter campaigns that haven't got funded in short order and reached multiple stretch goals.7ths 2e has many books to come, but we'll see how it'd fare in the future. The corebook got published already and also best-selling in drivethru.That's why i wrote it doesn't have to be either/or. They could maintain their staff, focusing on core products and APs, the movie, managing the brand an all that, while still could license out officially their more niche settings to 3rd parties, who could do them via kickstarter and/or freelancing in their own pace. I think that would be the best way to go.Just imagine the aforementioned deluxe Ravenloft CG! It would be the crown jewel of my shelf and gaming table and I suspect a lot of retailers would back it to have it on their shelves too. Imagine the possible stretch goals, supplements and added chapters, such as: Legends of Ravenloft, Ravenloft NPCs, expanded sections for DMs and players for running and playing in a horror game,  creating your own Dark Lord and Domain, Ravenloft Beastiary, Ravenloft NOW fiction anthology! I know you contributed a lot to the FoS site and having RL pdfs on DMsG. I don't want to be flattering when i say I'd be happy to see you and the other folks over there among the freelancers of those products' writers. I also think it'd be founded in 4 hours and would be very-very successful.  I didn't say they aren't. However we see their slow decline and how this day and age profoundly altered the rpg industry. You could crowdfound products, you doesn't have to maintain storages spaces and backlists, because you have PoD. I don't know how much money drivethru generates, but i suspect it's a lot. Also, different companies do kickstarting differently. For example, OP does a lot of open development and for a lot of their books, you had been (and still) able to read almost all of the book's written content on the KS page. You don't have to buy products in blind.</blockquote>

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