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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6927340" data-attributes="member: 2525">It's impossible to take "everything" into account because don't know "everything".  But it takes all objective data I am aware of into account, and to accuse me of half-truths you'd have to believe I am intentionally leaving out data I have to twist the data.  Which I did not do.Right, which is why I said I was listing objective data we have - hence I did not twist anything or give half-truths.  With the data we do have, I presented what we know.  If you have data on PDFs, let's see it.  Otherwise, stop accusing me of stating half-truths when you know darn well I can't state anything about data I don't even have, and did not leave out any data I have. Not accurate.  Pathfinder absolutely sells books through retail stores (ICv2 is game stores for the most part - they don't cover Amazon as far as I know).  Indeed, you already spoke about the "wall of books in a game store" issue and you know darn well Pathfinder is carried heavily in game stores.  It in fact WAS beating D&D on the ICv2 list a few years ago and I didn't hear you claiming then it was an unfair measurement of that data.  If you're now trying to argue Pathfinder doesn't sell a material number of hardcopy books through retail game stores, I think you're just plain flat wrong.  It's a major component of their business, and they are happy to tell you that game stores are a very important part of their business if you ask them. In fact, you should ask them.  That will settle that pretty quick.  Ask Eric Mona if he thinks retail game shops are an important distribution point for their Pathfinder books and let's see what he says.They also sell through Amazon by the way, and did previously rank pretty well on Amazon. I am betting they don't consider that meaningless either.  It is fact.  It was not to "close down" an argument it was to RESPOND to an argument, which you seem to have real issues with every time it happens (like when you told people they were illogical for viewing the game differently than you on a matter of opinion).  I displayed all the data I have, and said it was a list of the objective information we have available.  I can't know what I don't know.  I didn't leave any information out which I could know but didn't look for.  If you have some actual data to present that runs contrary rather than your personal guesses, please do present it.  Otherwise, stop calling me a liar (which is what half-truths as an accusation means) and stop claiming I am misrepresenting things (which is what the "twisting things" accusation means).  I didn't do either, so don't make that accusation.</blockquote>

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