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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6927539" data-attributes="member: 2525">Not only did Amazon sell both 4e and 3e at launch, but 3e sold for $20 initially to generate heavy sales in the PHB.  And 5e STILL outsold the entire lifetime of 3e PHB sales in under two years.  And it also outsold the entire lifetime of 4e PHB sales in under two years, though that is less impressive than the 3e outsell (which itself outsold Pathfinder).  My point is, conditions didn't change. This is also the most costly PHB even assuming online discounting.  Nobody knows.  Which is why it's speculation and not data.  Challenging actual hard data as "half-truth" and "twisting" with speculation is, at best, deceptive.  I am waiting still for some hard data from you, on anything.It was popular that year for book sales (it just got even more popular over time), and again the PHB sold for a reduced price of $20 initially to generate sales.  That's less than the 5e PHB, even if you adjust for inflation.  AND the 3e PHB initially came with a CD with a character generator on it, AND it had some monsters in the back of the book as an extra insert. But bottom line, Amazon sales specifically for books were plenty popular that year.  And the PHB didn't even make the top 100 for that year (which you can still check by the way - Amazon was already 5 years old at that point apparently and keeps all their bestseller data up for all prior years). And Mearls said it outsold the entire lifetime of 3x PHB sales.  Which means it includes people who bought additional copies over time (like a lot of people here at EnWorld said they did, and like I did). Right.  So stop calling it "half-truth".  It's not a half truth if you tell all you know but you don't tell what you don't know.  That's a bad misuse of that phrase "half-truth".  That phrase means being intentionally deceptive.  Knock it off unless someone is actually telling a half-truth.</blockquote>

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