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I think the term "class" is an illusion!
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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 3729703" data-attributes="member: 14506"><p>Jer, excellent. Tying the "role" together with the "power source" seems a natural fit. But using that and adding my point in- we could be seeing a potential here of what 4th edition is:</p><p></p><p>Select a role:</p><p>Defender</p><p>Controller</p><p>Striker</p><p>Leader</p><p></p><p>Select a power source:</p><p>Martial</p><p>Arcane</p><p>Divine</p><p>(With Psionics added w/ expansion)</p><p></p><p>Then,</p><p>Select a class:</p><p>(Known classes)</p><p>Fighter</p><p>Wizard</p><p>Rogue</p><p>Cleric</p><p>Ranger</p><p>Warlord</p><p>(But I have also heard mentioned)</p><p>Warlock</p><p>Barbarian</p><p>Paladin</p><p>Sorcerer</p><p></p><p>And this is sort of the point of my post. It could be that the combination of role and power source could be fundamentally more important of a factor mechanically than the class itself. So the classes would give the character access to certain feat trees or more aptly book of 9 swords disciplines (or whatever they are called) and class skills. The role-power source gives everything else (BAB, HP, Skill points, Caster level etc.) Each class would have to have certain requirements. For instance a wizard can be none other than an arcane power source.</p><p></p><p>More role and power source conjecture: </p><p>Arcane-controller: Gives you the ability to shoot like a warlock, endlessly all day.</p><p>Arcane-striker: gives you the ability to strike and do bonus damage, endlessly all day.</p><p>Arcane-leader: ?</p><p>Arcane-defender: ?</p><p>Divine-striker: gives you the ability to strike and heal, endlessly all day.</p><p>Divine-leader: heals, endlessly all day.</p><p>Divine-controller: ?</p><p>Divine-defender: ?</p><p>Martial-striker: sneak attack, endlessly all day.</p><p>Martial-defender: ?</p><p>Martial-controller: ?</p><p>Martial-leader: bard like bonus to hit and damage for everybody, endlessly all day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 3729703, member: 14506"] Jer, excellent. Tying the "role" together with the "power source" seems a natural fit. But using that and adding my point in- we could be seeing a potential here of what 4th edition is: Select a role: Defender Controller Striker Leader Select a power source: Martial Arcane Divine (With Psionics added w/ expansion) Then, Select a class: (Known classes) Fighter Wizard Rogue Cleric Ranger Warlord (But I have also heard mentioned) Warlock Barbarian Paladin Sorcerer And this is sort of the point of my post. It could be that the combination of role and power source could be fundamentally more important of a factor mechanically than the class itself. So the classes would give the character access to certain feat trees or more aptly book of 9 swords disciplines (or whatever they are called) and class skills. The role-power source gives everything else (BAB, HP, Skill points, Caster level etc.) Each class would have to have certain requirements. For instance a wizard can be none other than an arcane power source. More role and power source conjecture: Arcane-controller: Gives you the ability to shoot like a warlock, endlessly all day. Arcane-striker: gives you the ability to strike and do bonus damage, endlessly all day. Arcane-leader: ? Arcane-defender: ? Divine-striker: gives you the ability to strike and heal, endlessly all day. Divine-leader: heals, endlessly all day. Divine-controller: ? Divine-defender: ? Martial-striker: sneak attack, endlessly all day. Martial-defender: ? Martial-controller: ? Martial-leader: bard like bonus to hit and damage for everybody, endlessly all day. [/QUOTE]
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