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I think we can safely say that 5E is a success, but will it lead to a new Golden Era?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6357954" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>20 million was 1983, I think the peak was 82 with 27 million or so. They assumed the growth rates would continue but they had a 30% decline in the following year which was the 1st big screw up at TSR as they had 300 D&D staff.</p><p></p><p> Ryan Dancey gave the figure of 25-30 million a year circa 2006, Pazio hit 12 million in 2012 with an annual growth rate in excess of 30%. 3rd edition (3.0) was the silver age of D&D as if you adjust the 20-27 million figure the golden age of D&D was close to 40-50 million in sales in today's currency.</p><p></p><p> The golden age was also 2 editions, 1st ed and B/x and we have a reasonable idea for the print run sizes. Adventures made a lot of money, Keep on the Borderlands sold over a million copies. 3rd edition may be the most popular single version of D&D in terms of core books sold with 500k 3.0 sold, 250-350k 3.5 and Pathfinder has sold 250k according to Eric Mona. Over 14 years 3.x has sold over a million PHB type books. It is the D&D that has been in print the longest via PF and has been the best supported D&D ever in terms of content. </p><p></p><p> 4E started off well but apparently only sold in the 50-100k range but atm that is only scuttlebut. </p><p></p><p> I don't think 5E will still be going in 14 years or sell a million PHB so at best I think we are looking at a D&D Bronze Age. 2nd ed sold something like 100k in its 1st year. I could be wrong of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 6357954, member: 6716779"] 20 million was 1983, I think the peak was 82 with 27 million or so. They assumed the growth rates would continue but they had a 30% decline in the following year which was the 1st big screw up at TSR as they had 300 D&D staff. Ryan Dancey gave the figure of 25-30 million a year circa 2006, Pazio hit 12 million in 2012 with an annual growth rate in excess of 30%. 3rd edition (3.0) was the silver age of D&D as if you adjust the 20-27 million figure the golden age of D&D was close to 40-50 million in sales in today's currency. The golden age was also 2 editions, 1st ed and B/x and we have a reasonable idea for the print run sizes. Adventures made a lot of money, Keep on the Borderlands sold over a million copies. 3rd edition may be the most popular single version of D&D in terms of core books sold with 500k 3.0 sold, 250-350k 3.5 and Pathfinder has sold 250k according to Eric Mona. Over 14 years 3.x has sold over a million PHB type books. It is the D&D that has been in print the longest via PF and has been the best supported D&D ever in terms of content. 4E started off well but apparently only sold in the 50-100k range but atm that is only scuttlebut. I don't think 5E will still be going in 14 years or sell a million PHB so at best I think we are looking at a D&D Bronze Age. 2nd ed sold something like 100k in its 1st year. I could be wrong of course. [/QUOTE]
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