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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6359743" data-attributes="member: 59082">I like [MENTION=48965]Imaro[/MENTION]'s response to this, but would add that I think you're parsing out one element of it. It isn't only about whether or not people are actively decrying the game, but how well people are receiving it as a whole, what the general perception is - and it is about perception (for better or worse). While it is too soon to tell whether 5E's reception will be as positive as 3E's was, it does seem that it isn't burdened by a lot of the negativity that plagued 4E right from the beginning.In some ways 4E's run was rather tragic - it didn't really get the chance it deserved. I think a lot of this is on WotC, but some of it is excessive nerdrage. I mean let's be honest, as a demographic we are VERY tough to please and VERY easy to offend (I'm guessing someone out there was displeased and offended by my saying this! But please note that I am saying "we").I think 4E "failed"--by this I mean wasn't adequately embraced by the community and had a run that was too short and bumpy to be considered a true success--not because it wasn't a good game in its own right, but for three main factors:1. PR disasters - the anti-3.5 rollout, the online tools debacle, and just general poor communication2. Style and Presentation - including anything from non-traditional aesthetics and art to too much white space in the books, to feeling "Warcrafty" to many3. Mechanics - focus on tactical combat, grindiness, AEDU paradigm, etc.The first two were problematic from the get-go -- and truly, before the books were even released. The third started early but grew. Again, it wasn't that it wasn't a good game, but that its tactical style of game play was too specific to be widely embraced, the AEDU paradigm too totalizing in terms of how it framed game experience in a certain way that many just never fully took to, or was conducive to what was perceived to be traditional D&D.So my view is that 5E simply doesn't have anything like these issues. Yet. I'm not saying stuff won't arise, but I think if there was a big problem we'd know by now. This doesn't mean there won't be a 5E equivalent to grindiness--which if I remember correctly, took a few months to really reveal itself--some aspect of the game that a large chunk of folks find tedious or boring. Although hopefully with the simple core/modular options paradigm, WotC can craft up optional approaches that can suit just about any style of play.</blockquote>

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