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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6359826" data-attributes="member: 957">I think these two things are much more tightly connected than you are allowing here.4E threw a much smaller net and then on top of that there was a strong insistent voice within the fanbase claiming that nothing of significance had changed.&nbsp; Whether it was being implied or outright stated, the theme of &quot;if you don't like 4E then you are a closed minded H4TER with an axe to grind&quot; was loud and common.&nbsp; Thus, people who truly disliked the changes they saw were challenged and motivated to elaborate.&nbsp; This was &quot;whining&quot;.A lot of people didn't like 3E.&nbsp; But the pattern did not appear in that case.Casting a wider net would have gone a long way toward popularity.&nbsp; But accepting that there were legitimate reasons for disliking things and simply having a difference in taste doesn't make you a h4ter would go a long way toward shutting down the edition wars.5E truly seems to be built on the idea that there is a wider net to be cast and further, that two group can play with completely different expectations.&nbsp; There will still be people who don't like 5E.&nbsp; But if the 5E fanbase accepts that, then the edition wars will be like 3E - a trivial part of the background.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6359826, member: 957"] I think these two things are much more tightly connected than you are allowing here. 4E threw a much smaller net and then on top of that there was a strong insistent voice within the fanbase claiming that nothing of significance had changed. Whether it was being implied or outright stated, the theme of "if you don't like 4E then you are a closed minded H4TER with an axe to grind" was loud and common. Thus, people who truly disliked the changes they saw were challenged and motivated to elaborate. This was "whining". A lot of people didn't like 3E. But the pattern did not appear in that case. Casting a wider net would have gone a long way toward popularity. But accepting that there were legitimate reasons for disliking things and simply having a difference in taste doesn't make you a h4ter would go a long way toward shutting down the edition wars. 5E truly seems to be built on the idea that there is a wider net to be cast and further, that two group can play with completely different expectations. There will still be people who don't like 5E. But if the 5E fanbase accepts that, then the edition wars will be like 3E - a trivial part of the background. [/QUOTE]

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