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I think we can safely say that 5E is a success, but will it lead to a new Golden Era?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6359982" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>I think this remains to be seen. Further, I'm not sure I agree with what seems like a clear value judgement on your part, as if 5E is entirely void of innovations and lacking in the improvements that the prior edition(s) made. If anything, I like the fact that it is a simpler game at its core than the previous couple editions, and that it doesn't require the complex web of sub-systems and optimizations of the last couple editions. We won't really know until the DMG comes out, but the big innovation of 5E seems to be its flexibility and ability to customize different campaigns with modular options (I for one would like to see if they have something akin to the AEDU paradigm as an option, although that might be too difficult and complex to paste onto the 5E core).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me clarify. I don't think 5E will have grindiness, but that it may have its own quality that leads to tedium for many. I can tell you that while I grew to dislike AEDU aesthetically, as too "video gamey," it certainly made for fun factical play and I'm going to miss Splitting the Tree, and so forth. I am wondering if some of the martial classes will seem boring at some point, which will require splats to flesh them out.</p><p></p><p>In other words, damned if you do, damned if you don't!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed on both accounts. I think the key to a new boom of players is a successful movie franchise. Now the question is...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it completely depends upon who makes the films, and how they are made. I think either could work, IF done well and without geekspeak and over-the-top acting. On one hand I would lean towards Dragonlance as it is more epic and people love a big story. But I don't see why they couldn't do a Realms movie or three, featuring Drizzt etc. And it does make a certain degree of sense over Dragonlance in that young kids will think, "I want to play in <em>that </em>world!" and while the Realms will be there, ready and wiling, Krynn seems to be shelved for the time being.</p><p></p><p>But the problem is, people tend to prefer world-shaking fantasy films and WotC seems set on not shaking the Realms anymore. Or maybe they could just back-track and draw from the last 150 years of Realms shaking events, even hybridize them and take the best of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 6359982, member: 59082"] I think this remains to be seen. Further, I'm not sure I agree with what seems like a clear value judgement on your part, as if 5E is entirely void of innovations and lacking in the improvements that the prior edition(s) made. If anything, I like the fact that it is a simpler game at its core than the previous couple editions, and that it doesn't require the complex web of sub-systems and optimizations of the last couple editions. We won't really know until the DMG comes out, but the big innovation of 5E seems to be its flexibility and ability to customize different campaigns with modular options (I for one would like to see if they have something akin to the AEDU paradigm as an option, although that might be too difficult and complex to paste onto the 5E core). Let me clarify. I don't think 5E will have grindiness, but that it may have its own quality that leads to tedium for many. I can tell you that while I grew to dislike AEDU aesthetically, as too "video gamey," it certainly made for fun factical play and I'm going to miss Splitting the Tree, and so forth. I am wondering if some of the martial classes will seem boring at some point, which will require splats to flesh them out. In other words, damned if you do, damned if you don't! Agreed on both accounts. I think the key to a new boom of players is a successful movie franchise. Now the question is... I think it completely depends upon who makes the films, and how they are made. I think either could work, IF done well and without geekspeak and over-the-top acting. On one hand I would lean towards Dragonlance as it is more epic and people love a big story. But I don't see why they couldn't do a Realms movie or three, featuring Drizzt etc. And it does make a certain degree of sense over Dragonlance in that young kids will think, "I want to play in [I]that [/I]world!" and while the Realms will be there, ready and wiling, Krynn seems to be shelved for the time being. But the problem is, people tend to prefer world-shaking fantasy films and WotC seems set on not shaking the Realms anymore. Or maybe they could just back-track and draw from the last 150 years of Realms shaking events, even hybridize them and take the best of them. [/QUOTE]
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