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I think we can safely say that 5E is a success, but will it lead to a new Golden Era?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6360508" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Nod, the fighter was simplistic in most eds. In 3e, you wanted to point them at barbarians, instead, especially if they were building the character. </p><p></p><p>But think about how much nicer it'd be if the enthused new player who wanted to play a wizard /didn't/ have to be shunted to the simplistic option.</p><p></p><p> Nod. In 3e and 4e, with their many character-creation options, pregens were an excellent tool to introduce new players. 4e Encounters and CB-created pregens had a significant advantage in that everything you needed to play the character was on the sheet. You literally didn't need books at the table. </p><p></p><p> Not with the level of familiarity you're talking about. You give someone a pregen and tell them what dice to roll, it really doesn't matter the system, they'll start picking it up. The main difference with 4e was, once he understands that simplified character, he's prettymuch ready to build and play any class, while, with the inconsistent class structures of other editions, he goes through the same learning process with any new class. A serious barrier to a player who has a concept he likes and wants to play that /isn't/ the 'training wheels class' for the ed in question.</p><p></p><p>A fair definition. I'd add that they're not likely to show up for every game - putting many other priorities first, so you can't count on re-enforcing what they learn in one session at the next. You need to be able to cope with a fluctuating group at the table, as well. You can't, for instance, have iron-clad niche-protection in that environment, because you can't count on having the right class at the table when his moment arrives and the fate of the party rests on undead being turned or a trap being disarmed or whatever. 4e proved ideal for that, IMX with Encounters - pretty nearly the full run of the program, actually, as I started with the Dark Sun season.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6360508, member: 996"] Nod, the fighter was simplistic in most eds. In 3e, you wanted to point them at barbarians, instead, especially if they were building the character. But think about how much nicer it'd be if the enthused new player who wanted to play a wizard /didn't/ have to be shunted to the simplistic option. Nod. In 3e and 4e, with their many character-creation options, pregens were an excellent tool to introduce new players. 4e Encounters and CB-created pregens had a significant advantage in that everything you needed to play the character was on the sheet. You literally didn't need books at the table. Not with the level of familiarity you're talking about. You give someone a pregen and tell them what dice to roll, it really doesn't matter the system, they'll start picking it up. The main difference with 4e was, once he understands that simplified character, he's prettymuch ready to build and play any class, while, with the inconsistent class structures of other editions, he goes through the same learning process with any new class. A serious barrier to a player who has a concept he likes and wants to play that /isn't/ the 'training wheels class' for the ed in question. A fair definition. I'd add that they're not likely to show up for every game - putting many other priorities first, so you can't count on re-enforcing what they learn in one session at the next. You need to be able to cope with a fluctuating group at the table, as well. You can't, for instance, have iron-clad niche-protection in that environment, because you can't count on having the right class at the table when his moment arrives and the fate of the party rests on undead being turned or a trap being disarmed or whatever. 4e proved ideal for that, IMX with Encounters - pretty nearly the full run of the program, actually, as I started with the Dark Sun season. [/QUOTE]
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