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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6360858" data-attributes="member: 48965">Yes, but what would said &quot;new direction&quot; be?&nbsp; Also... how can it go in a &quot;new direction&quot; and accomplish &quot;what it's always been known for&quot;... not saying it's impossible just looking for an example, perhaps an rpg that has done this in the past??&nbsp; Now I agree you can do what you've always been known for with more efficient and familiar mechanics... but then I'm not seeing how 5e didn't do this?Well if they weren't &quot;fussing&quot; about feel and <s>making sure</s> re-establishing the iconic things in D&amp;D... the game wouldn't be accomplishing what it always has... would it?&nbsp; It'd be a different game...right?&nbsp; Exactly what willingly repeated &quot;mistakes&quot; are you speaking too?&nbsp; I'm assuming you mean the same problems in 3.x (thought I don't want to assume)... if so could you give some examples of the ones in 5e? &nbsp;Wait are you claiming 5e is the exact same game as 3.x?&nbsp; Funny I don't remember bounded accuracy, advantage/disadvantage, limited magic items, etc. being a part of 3.x.&nbsp; If anything it seems that exactly what they are doing is taking the familiar and refining and streamlining it... to claim that 5e is 3.x with &quot;a new coat of paint&quot; is... well wrong.&nbsp; As for the pot shots aginst Pathfinder... not sure how they even tie into what I asked about since I was talking about WotC and D&amp;D but it does help to establish your bias in this matter.&nbsp; Let me guess, 4e fan... right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6360858, member: 48965"] Yes, but what would said "new direction" be? Also... how can it go in a "new direction" and accomplish "what it's always been known for"... not saying it's impossible just looking for an example, perhaps an rpg that has done this in the past?? Now I agree you can do what you've always been known for with more efficient and familiar mechanics... but then I'm not seeing how 5e didn't do this? Well if they weren't "fussing" about feel and [s]making sure[/s] re-establishing the iconic things in D&D... the game wouldn't be accomplishing what it always has... would it? It'd be a different game...right? Exactly what willingly repeated "mistakes" are you speaking too? I'm assuming you mean the same problems in 3.x (thought I don't want to assume)... if so could you give some examples of the ones in 5e? Wait are you claiming 5e is the exact same game as 3.x? Funny I don't remember bounded accuracy, advantage/disadvantage, limited magic items, etc. being a part of 3.x. If anything it seems that exactly what they are doing is taking the familiar and refining and streamlining it... to claim that 5e is 3.x with "a new coat of paint" is... well wrong. As for the pot shots aginst Pathfinder... not sure how they even tie into what I asked about since I was talking about WotC and D&D but it does help to establish your bias in this matter. Let me guess, 4e fan... right? [/QUOTE]

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