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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6361772" data-attributes="member: 996">That is interesting.&nbsp; Essentials /did/ roll back things about 4e that were being heavily criticized in the course of the edition war.&nbsp; It put forth a simple, daily-less fighter with few options.&nbsp; It added lots of fluff text.&nbsp; It generally did what it was asked to to accomplish the two things you mentioned.&nbsp; It was launched as such with 'Red Box' art and everything.&nbsp; Appeal to old players.&nbsp; Be easy for new ones.And it that initiative that Pathfinder finally beat.&nbsp; The conclusion was that they didn't roll back far enough, so, for 5e, they rolled all the way back to the 20th century, something between early 2e and 3.0, sorta.While it's virtually guaranteed to succeed, with all the 'core brand' silliness history and WotC one big, happy, CCG-cash-flow-blessed division again, I personally find it a little tragic that the game has not only gone back to being stodgy, but gone /so far back/ in the process.&nbsp; Don't get me wrong, it's nostalgic fun.&nbsp; Even just doing character creation for session 0 on Wed was a blast from the past.&nbsp; It's just that on another, less personal level, I can't help but worry that re-winding /so much/ is setting the hobby back, perhaps even dooming it to a long, slow decline....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6361772, member: 996"] That is interesting. Essentials /did/ roll back things about 4e that were being heavily criticized in the course of the edition war. It put forth a simple, daily-less fighter with few options. It added lots of fluff text. It generally did what it was asked to to accomplish the two things you mentioned. It was launched as such with 'Red Box' art and everything. Appeal to old players. Be easy for new ones. And it that initiative that Pathfinder finally beat. The conclusion was that they didn't roll back far enough, so, for 5e, they rolled all the way back to the 20th century, something between early 2e and 3.0, sorta. While it's virtually guaranteed to succeed, with all the 'core brand' silliness history and WotC one big, happy, CCG-cash-flow-blessed division again, I personally find it a little tragic that the game has not only gone back to being stodgy, but gone /so far back/ in the process. Don't get me wrong, it's nostalgic fun. Even just doing character creation for session 0 on Wed was a blast from the past. It's just that on another, less personal level, I can't help but worry that re-winding /so much/ is setting the hobby back, perhaps even dooming it to a long, slow decline.... [/QUOTE]

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