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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6361958" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Pathfinder first topped the IcV2 charts in Q2, 2011, when Essentials was the flagship, the 'Class Compendium' had been cancelled, and the only new D&D book was the execrable and very Essentials-style Heroes of Shadow. D&D went on to beat Pathfinder with even the very slow releases of the much better, Heroes of the Feywild, Elemental Chaos, and Into the Unknown supplements (the 'AEDU books' you alluded to) before finally petering out with the edition-neutral Menzobarranzan in Aug 2012. In fall 2012, with publication of D&D on hiatus, Pathfinder once again took the top spot, though it didn't keep it consistently, even with D&D not publishing anything new.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Thing is, bitter /is/ definable. People have been tasting bitter since the dawn of the human race. There are chemicals that are definably bitter to some people, and not others, but if you put one of those chemicals in food it doesn't normally occur in, the people who can taste it don't suddenly lose the ability to do so.</p><p></p><p>That's the point. The things edition warriors claimed were 'bitter' in one version of D&D were inexplicably not 'bitter' when located in editions they liked. Evidence that they weren't really tasting anything, or were applying some sort of arbitrary double standard.</p><p></p><p></p><p> That fluff text is only an example. You can visualize the exploit however you like. If you choose not to visualize it in a way that makes sense to you...</p><p></p><p>In every edition. Even hps have that issue, yet no one ever complained about it, because it's not a real issue. It's a fake one, made up for the edition war by a blogger and repeated often enough to convince people who wanted to believe.</p><p></p><p> I'm not dismissing the way you feel, I'm dismissing the rationalization you give for feeling that way because it contains inconsistencies that render it meaningless.</p><p></p><p>I'm open to a reason that makes sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6361958, member: 996"] Pathfinder first topped the IcV2 charts in Q2, 2011, when Essentials was the flagship, the 'Class Compendium' had been cancelled, and the only new D&D book was the execrable and very Essentials-style Heroes of Shadow. D&D went on to beat Pathfinder with even the very slow releases of the much better, Heroes of the Feywild, Elemental Chaos, and Into the Unknown supplements (the 'AEDU books' you alluded to) before finally petering out with the edition-neutral Menzobarranzan in Aug 2012. In fall 2012, with publication of D&D on hiatus, Pathfinder once again took the top spot, though it didn't keep it consistently, even with D&D not publishing anything new. Thing is, bitter /is/ definable. People have been tasting bitter since the dawn of the human race. There are chemicals that are definably bitter to some people, and not others, but if you put one of those chemicals in food it doesn't normally occur in, the people who can taste it don't suddenly lose the ability to do so. That's the point. The things edition warriors claimed were 'bitter' in one version of D&D were inexplicably not 'bitter' when located in editions they liked. Evidence that they weren't really tasting anything, or were applying some sort of arbitrary double standard. That fluff text is only an example. You can visualize the exploit however you like. If you choose not to visualize it in a way that makes sense to you... In every edition. Even hps have that issue, yet no one ever complained about it, because it's not a real issue. It's a fake one, made up for the edition war by a blogger and repeated often enough to convince people who wanted to believe. I'm not dismissing the way you feel, I'm dismissing the rationalization you give for feeling that way because it contains inconsistencies that render it meaningless. I'm open to a reason that makes sense. [/QUOTE]
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