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<blockquote data-quote="sunshadow21" data-source="post: 6363900" data-attributes="member: 6667193"><p>That's not a safe assumption. Players will switch to a point, but getting them to actively invest in a system takes more than an eager DM, as 4E showed quite clearly, especially when they have already invested heavily in some other system. 4E did a great job of winning over DMs, but without an equal wave of support from the player side of the screen, most people still ended dumping it and moving on to something everyone could full enjoy, whether that be PF or something else. PF will certainly lose a certain percentage of their players and DMs, but not nearly as much as so many seem to think. A few will switch over entirely, but most of the current PF crowd that choose to play 5E will do so in addition to playing PF or at the very least will do so augmenting their 5E game with PF material. So Paizo has nothing to worry about until WotC suddenly starts churning out a monthly AP that matches Paizo in quality, and even than, they don't really have need to worry, as all that would mean is people would end up buying from both companies.</p><p></p><p>In addition, WotC still has a lot of work ahead of them to get anything substantial out beyond the initial release, and while they are hitting all the major notes reasonably well, I'm seeing a lot of potential cracks when looking at the material itself that will prevent 5E from being the takeoff hit that a lot of people are predicting. It will do well, but it will turn off as many people as it pleases when the shine wears off. Not having a book for any world even scheduled, trying to redefine the precise role of fighter and wizard yet again (vs the strategy PF and most OGL companies seem to be following of releasing options to those classes rather than trying to rewrite their core), and trying to mash multiple divergent systems into a d20 chassis not really built to handle many of those concepts will give WotC as many failures as it does successes over time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sunshadow21, post: 6363900, member: 6667193"] That's not a safe assumption. Players will switch to a point, but getting them to actively invest in a system takes more than an eager DM, as 4E showed quite clearly, especially when they have already invested heavily in some other system. 4E did a great job of winning over DMs, but without an equal wave of support from the player side of the screen, most people still ended dumping it and moving on to something everyone could full enjoy, whether that be PF or something else. PF will certainly lose a certain percentage of their players and DMs, but not nearly as much as so many seem to think. A few will switch over entirely, but most of the current PF crowd that choose to play 5E will do so in addition to playing PF or at the very least will do so augmenting their 5E game with PF material. So Paizo has nothing to worry about until WotC suddenly starts churning out a monthly AP that matches Paizo in quality, and even than, they don't really have need to worry, as all that would mean is people would end up buying from both companies. In addition, WotC still has a lot of work ahead of them to get anything substantial out beyond the initial release, and while they are hitting all the major notes reasonably well, I'm seeing a lot of potential cracks when looking at the material itself that will prevent 5E from being the takeoff hit that a lot of people are predicting. It will do well, but it will turn off as many people as it pleases when the shine wears off. Not having a book for any world even scheduled, trying to redefine the precise role of fighter and wizard yet again (vs the strategy PF and most OGL companies seem to be following of releasing options to those classes rather than trying to rewrite their core), and trying to mash multiple divergent systems into a d20 chassis not really built to handle many of those concepts will give WotC as many failures as it does successes over time. [/QUOTE]
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