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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6367480" data-attributes="member: 996">I think you're in a very small minority.  Basically you and Ren1999.  While there may be plenty of us who appreciated 4e's superior qualities as a game and are disappointed that WotC has chosen to make 5e cater exclusively to other side of the edition war, very few of us, having experienced the damage caused by that conflict, want to go and inflict a round of such damage, ourselves, in turn.  So the only negative reviews we're seeing of 5e are coming from the occasional Pathfinder partisan, and there's no 'Hater5' waging an intense campaign of lies & misinformation against it.  That's a good thing.   Well, sure.  But an awful lot of us appreciate that past. WotC is selling to a 'graying' audience in their peak earning years, the strategy is a classic one and makes perfect sense.  Fads (like D&D was in the 80s) come back in about a generation - our society has been changing and the come-back was a little delayed, perhaps leading WotC, in 2006-7 to conclude that it wasn't coming, so they jumped the gun and launched a product positioned for a post-comeback era, just a year or so before the come-back got rolling.  Now they're launching a come-back era product several years into it.  Not ideal, but they're making the best of it. The bar for 'doing well' is probably a lot lower, now.  5e is a very safe, conservative design, can't have required a lot of FTEs to produce (it does mostly re-cycle d20 mechanics and classic D&D), and has announced only a vary slow, cautious pace of ongoing support.  That's indicative of a low initial investment, probably calculated to be profitable even if sales are nothing special (and they do seem to be quite good, initially, in keeping with the game's usual sales patterns at the very least).  To use a tired sports analogy, they're just trying to get a man on base.  The next edition will probably come later rather than sooner, perhaps at the 50th anniversary mark, but probably /will/ be more ambitious.Of course, with 5e focusing mainly on core books, you have to expect a half-ed in a couple years... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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