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<blockquote data-quote="Baumi" data-source="post: 4571851" data-attributes="member: 2569">I don't get these kind of complaints. There is nearly no system that gives you so many build in options in a fight than in 4E (most are simply hit, hit, hit). Even if you don't want to use your powers, you still have stunts, terrain features, skill challenges and if all else fails your normal attacks (like the thing that got used all the time in earlier editions <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />).I can really understand if anyone doesn't like a system (there wouldn't be a point to have so many different systems if everyone has the same taste), but complaining about that 4E has no options in combat is simply wrong.P.S.: Sorry about the rant. To be more helpful, try Savage Worlds it's very cheap but complete, gives you many options and has a great stunt system (even non combat-characters can help greatly with taunts and tricks).C&amp;C is also great fun but I didn't like the unbalanced classes, weapons and hated the different experience charts. But it's very easy to run and you can concentrate on creating flaverfull adventures.Another vote goes for Gary Gygax's Lejendary Adventure. It doesn't read well but it plays wonderfully.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baumi, post: 4571851, member: 2569"] I don't get these kind of complaints. There is nearly no system that gives you so many build in options in a fight than in 4E (most are simply hit, hit, hit). Even if you don't want to use your powers, you still have stunts, terrain features, skill challenges and if all else fails your normal attacks (like the thing that got used all the time in earlier editions :p). I can really understand if anyone doesn't like a system (there wouldn't be a point to have so many different systems if everyone has the same taste), but complaining about that 4E has no options in combat is simply wrong. P.S.: Sorry about the rant. To be more helpful, try Savage Worlds it's very cheap but complete, gives you many options and has a great stunt system (even non combat-characters can help greatly with taunts and tricks). C&C is also great fun but I didn't like the unbalanced classes, weapons and hated the different experience charts. But it's very easy to run and you can concentrate on creating flaverfull adventures. Another vote goes for Gary Gygax's Lejendary Adventure. It doesn't read well but it plays wonderfully. [/QUOTE]

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