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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9061213" data-attributes="member: 6790260">And this is precisely why D&amp;D will always crap on Fighters. The bolded bit is the problem.A game built on teamwork absolutely should not have a class that is specifically designed to be more powerful than everyone else. That is literally contradictory to the fundamental goal of the game, to play together. (And if it were competitive, that would be even worse, to be clear. There is no refuge in escaping from &quot;cooperative multiplayer&quot; to &quot;competitive multiplayer&quot;!) Making one class more powerful than any other is a staple of only one kind of game: single-player.And as Ruin Explorer said, it is obvious from the design of every WotC edition that its creators want to make a balanced game. Even 5e.I believe the statement was not meant to pick between plate or rapiers, but to pick between:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;very primitive pre-Renaissance worlds with very limited technology&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">full plate and rapiers (whether separately or together)</li>
</ul>Full plate, rapiers, and guns were all very late-Medieval/early-Renaissance developments. Hence why I call the stock RPG setting &quot;pseudomedieval faux-European quasi-Tolkienesque schizotech fantasy.&quot; Because most folks absolutely forbid you to have guns or even cannons for it to be a &quot;medieval Fantasy setting,&quot; but absolutely require that you have plate armor which is newer than cannons and possibly newer than actual &quot;handgonnes.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9061213, member: 6790260"] And this is precisely why D&D will always crap on Fighters. The bolded bit is [I]the[/I] problem. A game built on teamwork [I]absolutely should not[/I] have a class that is specifically designed to be more powerful than everyone else. That is literally contradictory to the fundamental goal of the game, to play [I]together[/I]. (And if it were competitive, [I]that would be even worse[/I], to be clear. There is no refuge in escaping from "cooperative multiplayer" to "competitive multiplayer"!) Making one class more powerful than any other is a staple of only one kind of game: [I]single-player[/I]. And as Ruin Explorer said, it is obvious from the design of every WotC edition that its creators [I]want[/I] to make a balanced game. Even 5e. I believe the statement was not meant to pick between plate [I]or[/I] rapiers, but to pick between: [LIST] [*]"very primitive pre-Renaissance worlds with very limited technology" [*]full plate and rapiers (whether separately or together) [/LIST] Full plate, rapiers, and [I]guns[/I] were all [I]very[/I] late-Medieval/early-Renaissance developments. Hence why I call the stock RPG setting "pseudomedieval faux-European quasi-Tolkienesque [I]schizotech[/I] fantasy." Because most folks absolutely forbid you to have guns or even cannons for it to be a "medieval Fantasy setting," but absolutely require that you have plate armor which is [I]newer[/I] than cannons and possibly newer than actual "handgonnes." [/QUOTE]

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