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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9063239" data-attributes="member: 7030563">As you mentioned earlier for the people who like playing fighter implementation is of &quot;little value&quot; so moving them to the big leagues would not significantly change their enjoyment, because they don't care about that, it is not what those players value.&nbsp; The majoirty of players who actually play fighters would not get anything out of this change.At the same time a minority of fighters players who care about keeping fighters where they are as a support class would be upset by this move.&nbsp; Additionally a whole lot of players who play other classes that want fighters to remain &quot;little league&quot; would be upset.The only people who would actually benefit are the very small minority of people who1. Play fighters2. Do care about implementation (minority)3. Want the implementation changed so the class more powerful&nbsp; (minority of a minority)That is a very, very small number of players.No not for plenty.&nbsp; As you said implementaition is of &quot;little value&quot; for most who play fighters.I am saying they should not be more powerful than they currently are.Why can't you leave fighters alone and make a new &quot;olympic athlete&quot; class to fill the role that you think is missing?&nbsp; Why does it have to be the fighter that is improved when many of us do not want it improved?This works both ways.&nbsp; You certainly can't prove anything either and as I mentioned earlier in this thread the request for proof always seems to be one sided and any evidence, anecdotal or implicit, is dismissed by those asking for proof because it proves nothing.You have clearly stated that you believe most who play fighters do not care about improving them, that is not proof, but it shows you accept this as the current state and therefore it is not logical to believe a stronger fighter would make a meaningful difference for most who play fighters and are satisfied on theme alone.Finally, the one advocating change should actually be the one offering proof to back up their claims, instead of asking for it from others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9063239, member: 7030563"] As you mentioned earlier for the people who like playing fighter implementation is of [I]"little value" [/I]so moving them to the big leagues would not significantly change their enjoyment, because they don't care about that, it is not what those players value. The majoirty of players who actually play fighters would not get anything out of this change. At the same time a minority of fighters players who care about keeping fighters where they are as a support class would be upset by this move. Additionally a whole lot of players who play other classes that want fighters to remain [I]"little league" [/I]would be upset. The only people who would actually benefit are the very small minority of people who 1. Play fighters 2. Do care about implementation (minority) 3. Want the implementation changed so the class more powerful (minority of a minority) That is a very, very small number of players. No not for plenty. As you said implementaition is of [I]"little value"[/I] for most who play fighters. I am saying they should not be more powerful than they currently are. Why can't you leave fighters alone and make a new "olympic athlete" class to fill the role that you think is missing? Why does it have to be the fighter that is improved when many of us do not want it improved? This works both ways. You certainly can't prove anything either and as I mentioned earlier in this thread the request for proof always seems to be one sided and any evidence, anecdotal or implicit, is dismissed by those asking for proof because it proves nothing. You have clearly stated that you believe most who play fighters do not care about improving them, that is not proof, but it shows you accept this as the current state and therefore it is not logical to believe a stronger fighter would make a meaningful difference for most who play fighters and are satisfied on theme alone. Finally, the one advocating change should actually be the one offering proof to back up their claims, instead of asking for it from others. [/QUOTE]

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