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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9145218" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I think there are far more that don't want it nerfed at all, and I think the playtest results bear that out.If you look at the most recent playtest Wizard it is MORE powerful than the current Wizard and the things I have heard people complain about most in the playtest are rebalancing some of the spells and metamagic, most notably Hex, HM, Counterspell and Twin Spell (to be fair I have also heard them complain about the Monk).I think this is number is very, very small.&nbsp; I think there is a significant minority that will want an equivalent fighter, who will not be satisfied by an equivalent Mythic Martial as an alternative.Personally, I agree. I think the reasons we don'[t have it are twofold.&nbsp; First I don't think there&nbsp; is high demand for it and second I think there is a general push for less&nbsp; bloat and less options total.I do not think it would be popular at all with casual players.&nbsp; IME casual players do not care about balance at all and don't even understand it as a concept.I think Fighter would remain the most popular class as it has through all the rule iterations.&nbsp; I don't think a high-powerd non-magical martial will even be within the top 10 most popular classes, especially if it carries a new name that was not previously used.&nbsp; I think most casual players who want more power than a fighter offers are going to want spells and the Mythic Martial will not scratch that itch IMO.That is just my opinion obviously.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9145218, member: 7030563"] I think there are far more that don't want it nerfed at all, and I think the playtest results bear that out. If you look at the most recent playtest Wizard it is MORE powerful than the current Wizard and the things I have heard people complain about most in the playtest are rebalancing some of the spells and metamagic, most notably Hex, HM, Counterspell and Twin Spell (to be fair I have also heard them complain about the Monk). I think this is number is very, very small. I think there is a significant minority that will want an equivalent fighter, who will not be satisfied by an equivalent Mythic Martial as an alternative. Personally, I agree. I think the reasons we don'[t have it are twofold. First I don't think there is high demand for it and second I think there is a general push for less bloat and less options total. I do not think it would be popular at all with casual players. IME casual players do not care about balance at all and don't even understand it as a concept. I think Fighter would remain the most popular class as it has through all the rule iterations. I don't think a high-powerd non-magical martial will even be within the top 10 most popular classes, especially if it carries a new name that was not previously used. I think most casual players who want more power than a fighter offers are going to want spells and the Mythic Martial will not scratch that itch IMO. That is just my opinion obviously. [/QUOTE]

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