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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 5853208" data-attributes="member: 6061">I'm glad your group still gets a kick out of the + 1 sword. For me and mine, the +1 gets to be annoying with its cluster of relatives, the +1 shield and the +1 armor, along with the +1 amulet, +2 gloves and +1 bolts for the +1 crossbow.As for adjusting the CR to preserver the addition addicted, why? Why keep the the almighty plus in a new addition (gah!) edition? Unless Next returns to the simple combat of 1E, why not have magic items be magic. If you only have one melee basic attack per round you want to make sure that attack hits as often and as hard as possible. The addition squad makes sense. But if combat can have you be more cinematic and or tactical, allowing you to have AoO, sneak attack or warlocks curse, in addition to your basic sword swing and if the math is flatter the additives are not needed.</blockquote>