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Message: <blockquote data-quote="swrushing" data-source="post: 1909618" data-attributes="member: 14140"></blockquote>True, chaos cannot in its definition contain the same traits that lawful would. However, i am talking about the character here. A character can contain both chaotic and lawful trait and the weight he give each will place him at either chaotic, ;awful or neutral. Regardless, he can still Do any of the actions, but the overall total of those will set his alignment.or you could just not give you barbarian "chaotic" tribes as heavy a sense of honor, tradition and law. DnD "chaotic barbarians" would not have that HTL to a serious degree that it overwhelms their chaotic nature and makes them non-barbarians. Characters who had gone that way would be simply ex-barbarians or fighters or other CLASSES. A barbarian culture/society might have the HTL strong enough to be a neutral community or a lawful one, but those berserking whackos that can fly into frenzy etc, would not be the lawful ones. (assumes rigid adherence to the DND class limit.)What you seem to be mixing and matching are the characters of the barbarian CLASS and a more broad term of a barbarian culture/society.Viking society had its berserkers but those were not the norm.IF you want to talk about a culture with stroing enough traditions and laws that you now no longer consider it chaotic, then the culture is no loner chaotic... by definition. Even within such "barbarian" cultures, there would be those of the barbarian CLASS, who were "more chaotic" than the others, enough to be chaotic.There is a huge difference between a culture/society described as barbaric and an individual of the barbarian CLASS.what you seem to be trying to paint is "since i call this society barbarian, then that means they must be of the barbarian class, and since i defined my barbarian society as lawful, thats illegal." Whereas i would say that such a lawdul society could have most of its people not as BARBARIAN CLASS but a few wingnuts certainly could be.nope. he is not. he is not an alignment type of character. superheroes have gone thru multiple eras of development and none of them have remained IMO at such a static state as to be considered alignment exemplars.The exemplar for LG i would choose is the paladin. A character for whom the ENDS and the means must satisfy his precepts. dishonorable acts get him in dutch and even a single evil act gets him fired.Again, no single paladin has to embody every aspect of law and every aspect of good.[/QUOTE]

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