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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1910273" data-attributes="member: 3146">This is somewhat problematic since paladins are a class rather than an individual and therefore cannot present a whole individual which is where I'm maintaining that the law/chaos axis breaks down. But if it's all you can come up with it'll have to do.But you're wrong about one thing. A dishonorable act does not get a paladin in jeophardy. A chaotic act does. There's supposedly a lot more to law/chaos than just honor/dishonor and trying to narrow the focus down to honor now just concedes the point that the aggregate is untenable. So, what exactly would constitute a chaotic act? Breaking a positive law? Breaking a natural law would generally fall under good/evil since that is the context that natural law theory addresses. Not organizing his sock drawer? Supporting individual rights above the good of the group? Deciding marriage for himself rather than following the traditions of his society for arranged marriages or at least asking his parents for counsel and his to-be fiance's parents for permission first? (Although maybe you can dodge the question by requiring that all paladins remain chaste and celibate). How about simply pressing for social change? By the Moorcockian of Chaos, that would be chaotic. (IMO it's also poppycockian definition, but people here are absolutely right when they point out that it's one of the original inspirations for the law/chaos axis).</blockquote>

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