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Message: <blockquote data-quote="swrushing" data-source="post: 1915568" data-attributes="member: 14140">both the player and Gm arw working off the same guidelines. if a Gm has any odd setting specific things, he shoudl, as with all setting specific oddities, tell them before hand. Alignment change doesn't occur overnight. it is the result of a long process, and so, there are numerous opportunities for the player and Gm to discuss whats happening and stay on the same page. obviously, if a Gm sees an alignment change as "in the works" this is a point to make sure both he and player are on the same page.This isn't a blind guessing game. the GM sits a few feet from you every session. people seem to act like alignment change will be this "ahah! gotcha" Gm blind side sort of thing. it isn't.  Well. of course, it could be if the "bad" gm wanted it to be... but no rule is proof against a "bad" gm.of course, the big kicker in a class sense is the "one evil act" whammmy on the paladin. but, of course, a paladin player would check with the Gm before playing the paladin to make sure both are on the same page about "evil acts" because both know this is a real biggie going in.Not since the olden days of the girdle of alignment change have i seen a player character go thru an alignment change that the player did not want and did not expect a ways off. Alignment change reflects a change in the character... and matter of fact the change it reflects took place quite a while back and long before the alignment change took place on the character sheet... long enough ago for the series of choices under the new outlook to outweigh all those that went before the change in outlook occured.not a surprise, a choice... one made long ago.Why would someone choose to become an ex paladin? because it is the thing they see the character doing. Sure, its not the brightest of moves from a "how many plusses do i have" but if the character would commit a revenge killing even if it meant losing the faith... that makes great story, and not all decisions are motivated by the numbers.</blockquote>

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