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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 1916068" data-attributes="member: 7240">Remember, I'm talking about the operational function of alignment. This is back to swrushing's idea that alignment's in-game effects have nothing to do with alignment but all come from whatever mechanic it is interacting with. This is technically true but meaningless at an operational level. The rules are an integrated whole. I suppose you can argue that alignment isn't proscriptive that it's just the rules for the cleric, barbarian, monk and paladin classes, that it's just the rules for intelligent and aligned magic weapons. Yes, alignment ceases to be proscriptive when it produces no in-game effects but the in-game effects alignment produces are part of the integrated whole of rules that apply to alignment.I don't think you appreciate the absurdity of arguing that alignment does not function proscriptively as long as you waive all the rules where it does. If you waive all these rules, then what is its function?Does this not suggest there may be a problem with the law-chaos axis? There are many unambiguous good or evil actions, after all.And when I take a step back, I see a self-contradictory pile of chaos (that may be lawfully aligned <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).</blockquote>