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I thought back stab was a full action?
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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 1998465" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Right. As part of this sentence:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't disagree with you. You obviously only get a +2 Flanking bonus on your attack roll if you are making a melee attack and your ally opposite threatens your opponent.</p><p></p><p>I agree 100% with that statement.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, that's not really the bone of contention. In 3.0, Flanking was defined as:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thus, you and I were flanking when either I or you made a melee attack from opposite sides of a creature and while the other threatened.</p><p></p><p>Compare that to the 3.5 definition of Flanking:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Note that nowhere in this <strong>new, purposefully altered definition</strong> does the word "threaten" appear.</p><p></p><p>EDIT TO ADD:</p><p></p><p>Arkhandus: Read that text you highlighted very, very carefully. *All* it says is that you only recieve a bonus to your attack roll when you make a melee attack. Presumably, one must already be flanking to get such a bonus, right?</p><p></p><p>Then go to the next paragraph.</p><p></p><p>It defines the conditions that must be fulfilled in order to be considered flanking, and, as I mentioned above, none of those conditions require:</p><p></p><p>1) Melee attacking, or</p><p>2) Threatening</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 1998465, member: 23094"] Right. As part of this sentence: I don't disagree with you. You obviously only get a +2 Flanking bonus on your attack roll if you are making a melee attack and your ally opposite threatens your opponent. I agree 100% with that statement. Unfortunately, that's not really the bone of contention. In 3.0, Flanking was defined as: Thus, you and I were flanking when either I or you made a melee attack from opposite sides of a creature and while the other threatened. Compare that to the 3.5 definition of Flanking: Note that nowhere in this [b]new, purposefully altered definition[/b] does the word "threaten" appear. EDIT TO ADD: Arkhandus: Read that text you highlighted very, very carefully. *All* it says is that you only recieve a bonus to your attack roll when you make a melee attack. Presumably, one must already be flanking to get such a bonus, right? Then go to the next paragraph. It defines the conditions that must be fulfilled in order to be considered flanking, and, as I mentioned above, none of those conditions require: 1) Melee attacking, or 2) Threatening [/QUOTE]
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