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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 6536004" data-attributes="member: 2629">That is one way to go, but melee rogues often have pretty decent ACs.&nbsp; Studded is cheap and the high dex is a must, so many walk around at level 1 with 16 or 17 ACs.&nbsp; That is superior to a lot of barbarians, clerics, wildshaped druids, etc... on the front line.&nbsp; Your d8 hps per level mean you'll have 1+ 1/lvl less hps than a fighter - which means very little over the long haul.&nbsp; Regardless, doing extra attacks with sneak damage in a round often means you do not need to run away - because the foe is dead.&nbsp; Both melee and ranged rogues have their merits, but a well designed melee rogue with the right equipment is going to obliterate the ranged rogue in damage output.&nbsp; I did a one shot where people built a 20th level PC for a dungeon crawl.&nbsp; 20th level, and 3 Attuned Magic Items and and 4 Unattuned Magic Items.&nbsp; The MVP was an Rogue (Assassin) 17 / Fighter (Champion) 3.&nbsp; My wizard's 40d6 meteor swarm finished off the enemy, but it was puny compared to the 300+ that the rogue delivered over 2 rounds.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 6536004, member: 2629"] That is one way to go, but melee rogues often have pretty decent ACs. Studded is cheap and the high dex is a must, so many walk around at level 1 with 16 or 17 ACs. That is superior to a lot of barbarians, clerics, wildshaped druids, etc... on the front line. Your d8 hps per level mean you'll have 1+ 1/lvl less hps than a fighter - which means very little over the long haul. Regardless, doing extra attacks with sneak damage in a round often means you do not need to run away - because the foe is dead. Both melee and ranged rogues have their merits, but a well designed melee rogue with the right equipment is going to obliterate the ranged rogue in damage output. I did a one shot where people built a 20th level PC for a dungeon crawl. 20th level, and 3 Attuned Magic Items and and 4 Unattuned Magic Items. The MVP was an Rogue (Assassin) 17 / Fighter (Champion) 3. My wizard's 40d6 meteor swarm finished off the enemy, but it was puny compared to the 300+ that the rogue delivered over 2 rounds. [/QUOTE]

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