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<blockquote data-quote="happyhermit" data-source="post: 6871016" data-attributes="member: 6834463"><p>Are they good? Yes. </p><p></p><p>OP? I don't think so really, depends on the situation and your definition.</p><p></p><p>I certainly don't see players feeling like if they don't play a bard they are somehow "underpowered" in comparison. Same with bless and SS/GWM although I have heard that online a bit. Though personally it doesn't mean much to me when I hear people complain about something being OP online, too many times I have heard people go on and on about how bad something is, only to see absolutely no problem in real games.</p><p></p><p>How "powerful" Bless is obviously depends on # of attacks, chance to miss, # of saves, etc. So it depends on who is being attacked, who is in the party, etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>Bards are awesome, but they aren't better at much than any other class. They are very versatile though, and can be very useful in certain parties/situations.</p><p></p><p>Feats are an optional rule, and of course have a significant cost. Sharpshooter is very situational, it doesn't do much in; winding passageways, typical buildings, etc. it doesn't do anything in those situations unless the target is "easy" to hit. </p><p></p><p>Overall, no IMO, these things aren't "OP" in general. Sure, it may be possible to use them in particular builds in ways that makes them particularly powerful, but I don't see it happening in any extreme way. So, at least in the games I have seen they are not OP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="happyhermit, post: 6871016, member: 6834463"] Are they good? Yes. OP? I don't think so really, depends on the situation and your definition. I certainly don't see players feeling like if they don't play a bard they are somehow "underpowered" in comparison. Same with bless and SS/GWM although I have heard that online a bit. Though personally it doesn't mean much to me when I hear people complain about something being OP online, too many times I have heard people go on and on about how bad something is, only to see absolutely no problem in real games. How "powerful" Bless is obviously depends on # of attacks, chance to miss, # of saves, etc. So it depends on who is being attacked, who is in the party, etc. etc. Bards are awesome, but they aren't better at much than any other class. They are very versatile though, and can be very useful in certain parties/situations. Feats are an optional rule, and of course have a significant cost. Sharpshooter is very situational, it doesn't do much in; winding passageways, typical buildings, etc. it doesn't do anything in those situations unless the target is "easy" to hit. Overall, no IMO, these things aren't "OP" in general. Sure, it may be possible to use them in particular builds in ways that makes them particularly powerful, but I don't see it happening in any extreme way. So, at least in the games I have seen they are not OP. [/QUOTE]
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