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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 3563792" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>Not all CRs are accurate, though. You might want to try another monster instead, or a wide variety of monsters. Most will work out all right.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The dual-wielding ranger used a greatsword?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What did the mage do in this battle?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>An 18 Strength ranger at 1st-level is not an appropriate test of the CR system. He'd cut through slightly lower CR creatures way too fast. CRs are playtested with 25 point buy PCs, and most games use reasonable stats (even if not 25 point buy). And even then he couldn't hit? Talk about bad luck.</p><p></p><p>I find it hard to picture a 1st-level character using 28 point buy getting an 18. That's hurting their other stats quite harshly. What <strong>were</strong> his other stats? Did he have low Dex or Con, because those are important. Etc. (I also want to be sure you were using point buy properly, eg starting with 8, and so forth.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Giving out free +1 weapons would overpower them. At that level, if you want something at +1, you usually cast a spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm going to ignore the non-core feat for the moment and just point out that the wizard player seems like they were new. (In fact, I think you might have said that above.) <strong>Two</strong> identical spells? He should have traded one out for something like Color Spray. (Tactics are an invisible part of CR, of course.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 3563792, member: 1165"] Not all CRs are accurate, though. You might want to try another monster instead, or a wide variety of monsters. Most will work out all right. The dual-wielding ranger used a greatsword? What did the mage do in this battle? An 18 Strength ranger at 1st-level is not an appropriate test of the CR system. He'd cut through slightly lower CR creatures way too fast. CRs are playtested with 25 point buy PCs, and most games use reasonable stats (even if not 25 point buy). And even then he couldn't hit? Talk about bad luck. I find it hard to picture a 1st-level character using 28 point buy getting an 18. That's hurting their other stats quite harshly. What [b]were[/b] his other stats? Did he have low Dex or Con, because those are important. Etc. (I also want to be sure you were using point buy properly, eg starting with 8, and so forth.) Giving out free +1 weapons would overpower them. At that level, if you want something at +1, you usually cast a spell. I'm going to ignore the non-core feat for the moment and just point out that the wizard player seems like they were new. (In fact, I think you might have said that above.) [b]Two[/b] identical spells? He should have traded one out for something like Color Spray. (Tactics are an invisible part of CR, of course.) [/QUOTE]
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