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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 3565879" data-attributes="member: 39394"><p>I had a very exciting combat last week with such a melee monster. Girallon (CR 6 melee monster) vs. a party of four 4th level PCs. In the PCs favor, the girallon wasn't hiding and started the combat over 50 feet away. Against the PCs, they also had to contend with four or five hostile apes. (Not nearly as nasty as a girallon, but still hit pretty hard when they land a slam attack.)</p><p></p><p>The party wizard (my PC) concentrated on keeping the Girallon away with a Web (made its save and started to slowly plow through), a Glitterdust (made its save), and a couple of Summoned creatures (each lasting one round each). Meanwhile the other party members finished off the apes and started missile attacks on the Girallon. It just sucked them up and kept coming.</p><p></p><p>Very exciting ending where two PCs climbed a rope trick as a last ditch escape, a third turned tail and rode off on his riding dog, and the last took one final attack from five feet away, knowing that if she failed to finish it off its full attack would take her 8 remaining hitpoints down to a dead PC.</p><p></p><p>Lucky for her it had one hitpoint left. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>So yeah, you do not fight melee monsters up close. Bad, bad idea. I wouldn't want to fight a girallon in melee with a 14th level character, much less a 4th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 3565879, member: 39394"] I had a very exciting combat last week with such a melee monster. Girallon (CR 6 melee monster) vs. a party of four 4th level PCs. In the PCs favor, the girallon wasn't hiding and started the combat over 50 feet away. Against the PCs, they also had to contend with four or five hostile apes. (Not nearly as nasty as a girallon, but still hit pretty hard when they land a slam attack.) The party wizard (my PC) concentrated on keeping the Girallon away with a Web (made its save and started to slowly plow through), a Glitterdust (made its save), and a couple of Summoned creatures (each lasting one round each). Meanwhile the other party members finished off the apes and started missile attacks on the Girallon. It just sucked them up and kept coming. Very exciting ending where two PCs climbed a rope trick as a last ditch escape, a third turned tail and rode off on his riding dog, and the last took one final attack from five feet away, knowing that if she failed to finish it off its full attack would take her 8 remaining hitpoints down to a dead PC. Lucky for her it had one hitpoint left. :) So yeah, you do not fight melee monsters up close. Bad, bad idea. I wouldn't want to fight a girallon in melee with a 14th level character, much less a 4th level. [/QUOTE]
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