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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 3588227" data-attributes="member: 15538">Yes. Ogres are dangerous to 1st level characters, but the party should have been able to do it. I've put a 1st level party up against an ogre before. There's no fighter or barbarian in the party, so going toe to toe with it should not even be in the playbook. If the party thought switching to an evoker would help, they misunderstand spellcasting tactics; damage is a specialized realm of spellcasting.Round 1: Don't be within charging distance of the ogre. The mage casts sleep. Either the ogre (Will +1) fails the save, or you pepper it with ranged attacks.Round 2: From behind cover, you pepper it with some more ranged attacks. Anyone who finds themselves near or next to an ogre uses the withdraw action. The mage casts sleep again... at this point, there is less than a 1 in 4 chance the ogre is still fighting. Round 3: The mage gets frustrated and casts grease on the ogre, who does not have balance. The rogue throws a knife at him and finishes off the flat-footed ogre.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 3588227, member: 15538"] Yes. Ogres are dangerous to 1st level characters, but the party should have been able to do it. I've put a 1st level party up against an ogre before. There's no fighter or barbarian in the party, so going toe to toe with it should not even be in the playbook. If the party thought switching to an evoker would help, they misunderstand spellcasting tactics; damage is a specialized realm of spellcasting. Round 1: Don't be within charging distance of the ogre. The mage casts sleep. Either the ogre (Will +1) fails the save, or you pepper it with ranged attacks. Round 2: From behind cover, you pepper it with some more ranged attacks. Anyone who finds themselves near or next to an ogre uses the withdraw action. The mage casts sleep again... at this point, there is less than a 1 in 4 chance the ogre is still fighting. Round 3: The mage gets frustrated and casts grease on the ogre, who does not have balance. The rogue throws a knife at him and finishes off the flat-footed ogre. [/QUOTE]

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