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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 5917322" data-attributes="member: 27160">For reasons like Total Defence and Second Wind and the like I think both are necessary, but I really don't find having a column each for those on a tracking sheet a big deal (I'm thinking mainly of DMing and tracking statuses for all monsters - besides that, tracking my statuses for one PC is frankly trivial).Generally I think they ought to be &quot;Start of your (= &quot;affected creature's&quot;) next turn&quot;. You normally want those buffs when enemies attack you, and those you don't are usually useless if you aren't attacking them...As an aside, another element I think 4e got right was having all buffs be to final attributes, not to characteristics or the like. Boosting something that rolls on bonuses into all sorts of other things (like +2 Strength, for example, as opposed to +1 to hit - or even +1 to hit and +1 damage) just causes endless hassle and confusion.I know what you mean, but I think that was poor implementation, too. Just say that the effects don't stack but the saves do. In other words, if a character gets hit with three &quot;ongoing 5 poison damage&quot; effects, they only take 5 poison damage per turn (i.e. the effects don't stack), but they must save against all three (i.e. make three successful saves in total) before they stop taking the damage.I think WotC just bottled out into thinking &quot;this is too hard&quot;, here, when I don't think it's hard at all - it's entirely intuitive, to me and most of the folk I play with, and it makes a lot more sense in terms of monster relative power and so on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 5917322, member: 27160"] For reasons like Total Defence and Second Wind and the like I think both are necessary, but I really don't find having a column each for those on a tracking sheet a big deal (I'm thinking mainly of DMing and tracking statuses for all monsters - besides that, tracking my statuses for one PC is frankly trivial). Generally I think they ought to be "Start of your (= "affected creature's") next turn". You normally want those buffs when enemies attack you, and those you don't are usually useless if you aren't attacking them... As an aside, another element I think 4e got right was having all buffs be to [B]final[/B] attributes, not to characteristics or the like. Boosting something that rolls on bonuses into all sorts of other things (like +2 Strength, for example, as opposed to +1 to hit - or even +1 to hit and +1 damage) just causes endless hassle and confusion. I know what you mean, but I think that was poor implementation, too. Just say that the effects don't stack but the saves do. In other words, if a character gets hit with three "ongoing 5 poison damage" effects, they only take 5 poison damage per turn (i.e. the effects don't stack), but they must save against all three (i.e. make three successful saves in total) before they stop taking the damage. I think WotC just bottled out into thinking "this is too hard", here, when I don't think it's hard at all - it's entirely intuitive, to me and most of the folk I play with, and it makes a lot more sense in terms of monster relative power and so on. [/QUOTE]

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