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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5843943" data-attributes="member: 82106">Of course 'no radical change' would be 5e is a lot like 4e at this point.I think the fact that WotC did make a radical change from 3.5 tells us a lot. There were already really fundamental problems. Not that 3.5 was exactly failing, but imagine you have a basic product that hit its peak in 1982 and has been on a downward slide since then. The product has a certain loyal core following, but most of the similar products have changed over the years. Even with some upticks when some limited updates were made, the basic trend in your product is towards older users, less users, and less and less overall brand recognition.I think they could have continued to make 3e and tweaks of 3e for a long long time, but to Hasbro spending some money to gamble on a hit really isn't that big a deal. A hit makes you a lot more money. A miss probably still makes money and carries little real downside. Seems to me they decided to go for it while 3.5 was still reasonably popular but also must have been obviously trending down and showing that pretty soon they'd have to do something anyway. It was time for a shakeup.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5843943, member: 82106"] Of course 'no radical change' would be 5e is a lot like 4e at this point. I think the fact that WotC did make a radical change from 3.5 tells us a lot. There were already really fundamental problems. Not that 3.5 was exactly failing, but imagine you have a basic product that hit its peak in 1982 and has been on a downward slide since then. The product has a certain loyal core following, but most of the similar products have changed over the years. Even with some upticks when some limited updates were made, the basic trend in your product is towards older users, less users, and less and less overall brand recognition. I think they could have continued to make 3e and tweaks of 3e for a long long time, but to Hasbro spending some money to gamble on a hit really isn't that big a deal. A hit makes you a lot more money. A miss probably still makes money and carries little real downside. Seems to me they decided to go for it while 3.5 was still reasonably popular but also must have been obviously trending down and showing that pretty soon they'd have to do something anyway. It was time for a shakeup. [/QUOTE]

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