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<blockquote data-quote="pointofyou" data-source="post: 9219149" data-attributes="member: 7037848">Nah.&quot;Actions matter&quot; isn't a smoke screen unless the GM doesn't want them to matter. Players wanting their actions to matter as far as the fiction and the game play isn't at all the same thing as wanting a super easy pointless game and it doesn't at all mean the game reality alters to match what the players do as has been repeatedly pointed out to you and as you have repeatedly ignored.Your descriptions read like parodies of bad gameplay. Maybe if you stop thinking of your players as spoiled children you can start treating them like adults. My experience is that if you treat them like adults they're much more likely to act like adults than if you treat them like children.I'd also seriously recommend getting some experience as a player. You seem to have lost whatever ability you might have had to see things from that POV and that lack of empathy stains everything you write about players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pointofyou, post: 9219149, member: 7037848"] Nah. "Actions matter" isn't a smoke screen unless the GM doesn't want them to matter. Players wanting their actions to matter as far as the fiction and the game play isn't at all the same thing as wanting a super easy pointless game and it doesn't at all mean the game reality alters to match what the players do as has been repeatedly pointed out to you and as you have repeatedly ignored. Your descriptions read like parodies of bad gameplay. Maybe if you stop thinking of your players as spoiled children you can start treating them like adults. My experience is that if you treat them like adults they're much more likely to act like adults than if you treat them like children. I'd also seriously recommend getting some experience as a player. You seem to have lost whatever ability you might have had to see things from that POV and that lack of empathy stains everything you write about players. [/QUOTE]

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