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<blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 9225799" data-attributes="member: 3987">I don't think&nbsp; I have ever met or even heard of someone objecting to a vault being locked, as being shut down. That's a pretty logical thing for a vault to be. Now if they attempted to research who made the vault, what flaws it might have, the nature of the wall and the mechanism and you shutdown every attempt saying that information isn't available then they would have a point.To take it further the players actions have meaning. If they scout the place out and notice that at a specific time the vault door is opened to transfer in the nights takings, and they discover it takes 1 minute from the alarm being raised to the vault being closed and locked, then they have 10 turns to get to the vault if they fail in that time it is locked. That's when actions (getting to the vault in time) have meaning.But also if they go in guns blazing killing guards, it will have a different meaning than if they tunnel in and never get discovered until the vault is opened in the morning.Just giving the players a cake walk to get the gold removes that meaning.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bagpuss, post: 9225799, member: 3987"] I don't think I have ever met or even heard of someone objecting to a vault being locked, as being shut down. That's a pretty logical thing for a vault to be. Now if they attempted to research who made the vault, what flaws it might have, the nature of the wall and the mechanism and you shutdown every attempt saying that information isn't available then they would have a point. To take it further the players actions have meaning. If they scout the place out and notice that at a specific time the vault door is opened to transfer in the nights takings, and they discover it takes 1 minute from the alarm being raised to the vault being closed and locked, then they have 10 turns to get to the vault if they fail in that time it is locked. That's when actions (getting to the vault in time) have meaning. But also if they go in guns blazing killing guards, it will have a different meaning than if they tunnel in and never get discovered until the vault is opened in the morning. Just giving the players a cake walk to get the gold removes that meaning. [/QUOTE]

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