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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 9230035" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Did you not read what I just wrote?&nbsp; Its abundantly clear what I wrote and it doesn't churn out &quot;I personally have some degree of proficiency in climbing.&quot;&nbsp; It is a claim with supporting statements and a conclusion about the realities of climbers.&nbsp; I routinely climb with dozens and dozens and dozens of people from intermediate skill to expert skill.&nbsp; None of us/them can send a world class climb...but every single one of them can look at one and develop the climbing beta to navigate it and put a difficulty on the climb within a very small margin of error (which is a DC in D&amp;D).&nbsp; Every Fighter in D&amp;D who is trained in Athletics would have some ability here because possessing Athletics means they have exposure to/prowess in climbing, jumping, swimming and activities that cover the physical/cognitive/technical prowess/tools that Athletics entails.This is an opportunity for you to correct the wrong or made up things you're saying (included in which is that you need to tackle this on page 175 of the 5e PHB):[ATTACH=full]341996[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 9230035, member: 6696971"] Did you not read what I just wrote? Its abundantly clear what I wrote and it doesn't churn out "I personally have some degree of proficiency in climbing." It is a claim with supporting statements and a conclusion about the realities of climbers. I routinely climb with dozens and dozens and dozens of people from intermediate skill to expert skill. None of us/them can send a world class climb...but every single one of them can look at one and develop the climbing beta to navigate it and put a difficulty on the climb within a very small margin of error (which is a DC in D&D). Every Fighter in D&D who is trained in Athletics would have some ability here because possessing Athletics means they have exposure to/prowess in climbing, jumping, swimming and activities that cover the physical/cognitive/technical prowess/tools that Athletics entails. This is an opportunity for you to correct the wrong or made up things you're saying (included in which is that you need to tackle this on page 175 of the 5e PHB): [ATTACH type="full"]341996[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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