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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9232024" data-attributes="member: 42582">I am one of the clumsiest people that I know, and have poor catch reflexes and a poor ability to throw things so as to hit targets. Nor do I have particularly good balance. But I am a reasonably competent commuter cyclist. So cycling does not seem to depend heavily on some of the core capabilities that D&amp;D groups under DEX.[USER=16668]@Ulorian - Agent of Chaos[/USER], I take your point about not having learned to swim at all. So let me add to my earlier post: in the world of D&amp;D, every fighter - as they are learning to shoot, and jump, and fence, also learns to swim. Then they develop their core physical abilities as they do whatever it is in the fiction that corresponds to gaining levels on the PC sheet. And this is what the STR stat and the Athletics skill represent.If we want a NPC who can fence but not shoot, or who can climb but not swim, nothing stops the GM creating that person. But that person is ruled out as a PC, just as the character build rules exclude many other possibilities that we can imagine, because the designers take those possibilities not to conduce to good game play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9232024, member: 42582"] I am one of the clumsiest people that I know, and have poor catch reflexes and a poor ability to throw things so as to hit targets. Nor do I have particularly good balance. But I am a reasonably competent commuter cyclist. So cycling does not seem to depend heavily on some of the core capabilities that D&D groups under DEX. [USER=16668]@Ulorian - Agent of Chaos[/USER], I take your point about not having learned to swim at all. So let me add to my earlier post: in the world of D&D, every fighter - as they are learning to shoot, and jump, and fence, also learns to swim. Then they develop their core physical abilities as they do whatever it is in the fiction that corresponds to gaining levels on the PC sheet. And this is what the STR stat and the Athletics skill represent. If we want a NPC who can fence but not shoot, or who can climb but not swim, nothing stops the GM creating that person. But that person is ruled out as a PC, just as the character build rules exclude many other possibilities that we can imagine, because the designers take those possibilities not to conduce to good game play. [/QUOTE]

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