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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9233243" data-attributes="member: 93670">I agree with this DC recollection. Most of the time players were making a check it was less &quot;I want to climb THE wall&quot;* &amp;more &quot;I want to climb a tree to be safer from wolves&quot;. Even knowledge skills were rarely players wanting to go deeper than &quot;is it vulnerable/resist equipped to any elements &quot; or &quot;do I know anything about its capabilities before we need to learn from experience?&quot;.The sldx ladder went up to like 43, but at a certain point they shift to examples where players want to make a bonkers check like track the path where a goblin traveled a week ago and there is snow on the ground.&nbsp; For &quot;who could do it&quot; that one had something like a level 20 ranger with maxed ranks in the relevant skill who had maintained favored enemy goblins for 20 levels and maybe added a feat or something for tracking.&nbsp; The extreme DCs were mostly for &quot;you can try&quot; when a player wants to make a bonkers check that could provide some (mis)information or a +2 elsewhere if the player rolled really high.* the game of thrones near space elevator level wall</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9233243, member: 93670"] I agree with this DC recollection. Most of the time players were making a check it was less "I want to climb THE wall"* &more "I want to climb [I]a [/I]tree to be safer from wolves". Even knowledge skills were rarely players wanting to go deeper than "is it vulnerable/resist equipped to any elements " or "do I know anything about its capabilities before we need to learn from experience?". The sldx ladder went up to like 43, but at a certain point they shift to examples where players want to make a bonkers check like track the path where a goblin traveled a week ago and there is snow on the ground. For "who could do it" that one had something like a level 20 ranger with maxed ranks in the relevant skill who had maintained favored enemy goblins for 20 levels and maybe added a feat or something for tracking. The extreme DCs were mostly for "you can [I]try[/I]" when a player wants to make a bonkers check that [I]could[/I] provide [I]some[/I] (mis)information or a +2 elsewhere if the player rolled really high. * the game of thrones near space elevator level wall [/QUOTE]

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