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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9233312" data-attributes="member: 93670">Dmg, it's also quite a bit more authoritative on the topic of what DCs the GM will set when they set a DC than the spitballing estimate the phb provides to players.  Players being led to over-estimate the DC and then be pleasantly surprised if they fell a little short of that estimate but still succeeded is far more preferable than being frustrated or feeling cheated if they under estimated and cleared the estimate but still failed.I'll edit this post later with page numbers.</blockquote>