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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 740436" data-attributes="member: 149"><p>**Note** - My statements here are with regards to fighter type classes. Caster Prestige classes are outside my area of experience and generally seem to be more likely to be abusable to me.</p><p></p><p>I still think you worry too much about Prestige class combo's. Can the abilities create a synergistic effect feeding off each other. Sure, but don't forget by the time you have substantial levels in two prestige classes you are hitting the top end of the class range and EVERYONE is obscenely powerful. </p><p></p><p>Take your proposed OoBI-DWS. I don't think that upping the crit multiplier from x3 to x4 is "too powerful for the level" for say a 17th level char. It's certainly no worse than going from DB Fireball to Meteor Swarm. If you can't cope with the synergistic effect of multiple prestige classes at 16-20th level, then you probably can't cope with characters of those levels period. </p><p></p><p>Leaving the highly warped and smackdown specific circumstances aside, multiple prestige classes don't necessarily convey significantly more power. I've run a Rng 1/F4/OoBi3/DWS3 and he was in no way more powerful than the F6/Bar1/OoBI4 I had at the same point in your campaign. So my experiences don't bear out your conclusions about DWS or even DWS-OoBI combos. And you know I know how to make/run an effective archer. Peerless archer OTOH, well even I'd have to agree that they are a broken prestige class btw (permitting Power Attack for archers, that's just nuts).</p><p></p><p>The other thing about multiple prestige classes, is that most characters will finish off a prestige class (probably at around 16-17 lv) before hitting epic level, given that most prestige classes kick in at around levels 6-7 (ie. qualifying at 5-6th). Meaning that the character has no place to go for 4-6 levels if they want to either persue their main shtick (epic - Prestige class prog) or really even take a different tack for the most part as adding another 4-6 fighter levels really gains you little other than some BAB and HP.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You were expecting an analysis based on Moonglum or Elric perhaps?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 740436, member: 149"] **Note** - My statements here are with regards to fighter type classes. Caster Prestige classes are outside my area of experience and generally seem to be more likely to be abusable to me. I still think you worry too much about Prestige class combo's. Can the abilities create a synergistic effect feeding off each other. Sure, but don't forget by the time you have substantial levels in two prestige classes you are hitting the top end of the class range and EVERYONE is obscenely powerful. Take your proposed OoBI-DWS. I don't think that upping the crit multiplier from x3 to x4 is "too powerful for the level" for say a 17th level char. It's certainly no worse than going from DB Fireball to Meteor Swarm. If you can't cope with the synergistic effect of multiple prestige classes at 16-20th level, then you probably can't cope with characters of those levels period. Leaving the highly warped and smackdown specific circumstances aside, multiple prestige classes don't necessarily convey significantly more power. I've run a Rng 1/F4/OoBi3/DWS3 and he was in no way more powerful than the F6/Bar1/OoBI4 I had at the same point in your campaign. So my experiences don't bear out your conclusions about DWS or even DWS-OoBI combos. And you know I know how to make/run an effective archer. Peerless archer OTOH, well even I'd have to agree that they are a broken prestige class btw (permitting Power Attack for archers, that's just nuts). The other thing about multiple prestige classes, is that most characters will finish off a prestige class (probably at around 16-17 lv) before hitting epic level, given that most prestige classes kick in at around levels 6-7 (ie. qualifying at 5-6th). Meaning that the character has no place to go for 4-6 levels if they want to either persue their main shtick (epic - Prestige class prog) or really even take a different tack for the most part as adding another 4-6 fighter levels really gains you little other than some BAB and HP. You were expecting an analysis based on Moonglum or Elric perhaps? [/QUOTE]
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