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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 741498" data-attributes="member: 317"><p>PrCs are ok, as long as they make sense for the world the DM has created. I personally don't allow any of the PrCs from the DMG, or any of the WoTC splatbooks in my game- they simply aren't right for the flavor of my world. I have created a few PrCs of my own for specific purposes, religious orders, etc- but they are few are far between. I think that PrCs should be the elite of their chosen fields, and not something most characters should be aware of the requirements for beforehand. If a character learns of a PrC IN GAME and their abilities, then decides he wants to pursue it in the game via NPC contacts and training, thats fine- but shooting for a PrC from first level seems really munchkin to me.</p><p></p><p>However, it does seem that most PrCs are grossly overpowered, and are often vehicles for munchkin twinkery. The worst offenders are the spellcasting ones that allow +1 caster level per level of the presteige class, while also granting scads of extra abilities. I have played in a high-level game that had a fighter 7/dwarven defender 5, a rogue 6/assassin 6, and a cleric 6/church inquisitor 6 (which was my character), and those characters that had PrCs dominated over the other characters without them. We created those characters at 10th level, and it took a lot of effort to keep those characters from becoming stereotypes of their respective PrCs. So yeah, I can understand why your DM would be leery of characters taking PrCs, especially newly made characters. Too often people see them as a gateway for "cool powerz" without considering the roleplaying possibilities and implications they incur.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 741498, member: 317"] PrCs are ok, as long as they make sense for the world the DM has created. I personally don't allow any of the PrCs from the DMG, or any of the WoTC splatbooks in my game- they simply aren't right for the flavor of my world. I have created a few PrCs of my own for specific purposes, religious orders, etc- but they are few are far between. I think that PrCs should be the elite of their chosen fields, and not something most characters should be aware of the requirements for beforehand. If a character learns of a PrC IN GAME and their abilities, then decides he wants to pursue it in the game via NPC contacts and training, thats fine- but shooting for a PrC from first level seems really munchkin to me. However, it does seem that most PrCs are grossly overpowered, and are often vehicles for munchkin twinkery. The worst offenders are the spellcasting ones that allow +1 caster level per level of the presteige class, while also granting scads of extra abilities. I have played in a high-level game that had a fighter 7/dwarven defender 5, a rogue 6/assassin 6, and a cleric 6/church inquisitor 6 (which was my character), and those characters that had PrCs dominated over the other characters without them. We created those characters at 10th level, and it took a lot of effort to keep those characters from becoming stereotypes of their respective PrCs. So yeah, I can understand why your DM would be leery of characters taking PrCs, especially newly made characters. Too often people see them as a gateway for "cool powerz" without considering the roleplaying possibilities and implications they incur. [/QUOTE]
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