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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 742099" data-attributes="member: 151">You're darn tootin.  The only caster-based class I haven't scaled back is still one that I consider scaling back quite often.  Scorch knows full well how I feel about the Mage of the Arcane Order prestige class, which I find to be indicative of more caster PrCs than not.  Proper enforcment of the class brought it back into the realm of acceptability...but we had long debates over it.Well, we approach them from two different perspectives.  You see it from the view of the player who wants to be self-sufficient, while I view it from the perspective of a DM who wants to foster a group ethic.  Taken alone, sans magical equipment and buffing spells, they would appear to be relatively low power.  But actual application of various PrCs has shown me that a little goes a long way.  If anything, next time out I will scale back the PrCs abilities signficantly, now that I've seen their practical applications.  When a 15th level character can hit an AC46 most of the time, and do a x4 critical on a roll of 13 or better with a +5 arrow, doing sneak attack damage of +4d6 per shot plus 3d10 of elemental damage with a possibility of ability damage...I consider that pretty darn strong.  When he does it five times a round, every round, I consider it a problem.  As for comparions to Meteor Swarm...well, last time I checked, arrows didn't hurt other party members and destroy the BBEG's loot. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />I lean much more towards offering new feats (particularly new chains) that benefit everyone than more PrCs.  I also tend to disagree that most classes get boring after 6th level, but that's only my opinion.</blockquote>

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