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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moff_Tarkin" data-source="post: 4836425" data-attributes="member: 14175">I know there should have been no save needed the second we tried to decapitate and burn the corpse, as our swords would just pass through it. Our DM says that if you interact with an illusion the way the illusion expects you to, you get no save and its all believable. I have a hard time arguing with him since the module put this illusion there to fool us into thinking we had killed the vampire. It would not be a very good trick if the illusion went away the second we touched it.And after 3 pages of posts, I am still not getting the “out of character” and “metagaming” arguments. Our DM says you only get a save when you have reason to disbelieve; interaction gives you nothing. So by the time we started saying that something was wrong, we had already decapitated and burned this body. We felt the head cut off, we saw the body burn to dust. Every bit of physical evidence that the players and their PCs had said that the body was real. Yet, despite all that, we didn’t completely believe the corpse was real based on our own intuition. No one even really brought up illusion until the DM said “make a disbelieve check” We were all just thinking it was a dummy corpse.It just seems a little overpowered the way the DM is running it. We just completed that dungeon and we left that vampire room never to return. Because now that we have failed our Will saves, we will never go back and never truly destroy that vampire.</blockquote>

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