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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elethiomel" data-source="post: 4836897" data-attributes="member: 49897">After noticing the missing kama and having the suspicion that it was not the real body, he failed his saving throw against the illusion. He is now convinced there's a body there, and that the body looks exactly like the vampire. That does not mean that all his suspicions are allayed. He may still believe it is a replacement body polymorphed (or, for example, the vampire's twin killed and preserved for this purpose). He just doesn't believe the body itself is an illusion.He's already noticed something is amiss (the kama is gone, the vampire was acting strangely stupidly by fighting next to his coffin to name two things that came through the OP's post). The illusion does not negate these things. He noticed them before any save was called for. If it had been a real replacement body (or even the actual body of the vampire) he could have tested for an illusion (by interacting) and found none (just the same result as a failed will save vs illusion). He could still assume the body was trickery due to other evidence (like the missing kama and the suspiciously stupid vampire). This is what I mean when I say "an illusion is not more convincing than the real thing".As I understand the OP, the statement "I don't think this is the real body" was what triggered the Will save, which means the statement came before the save, which means that the suspicion that something was wrong was already in place without taking the save into account.</blockquote>

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